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Solved:Cursed Mace and Molag Bal quest from vanilla Oblivion

Hello everyone,some years ago I started to play Morroblivion,it worked fine but there was a bug that discouraged me to play it,lately I got my hands on it again,it still works fine and the fixes with the unofficial patch and the cumulative ones are awesome but there's a problem with the vanilla quest of Molag Bal, basically Melus Petilius won't pick up the cursed mace to beat me up,I thought it would be fixed with the additional fixes but it still doesn't work,it seems something in Morroblivion changes the behaviour of NPCs stopping them from picking up weapons from the ground,is there a way to fix this?Maybe using TES4Edit or something?

Edited by: NullKore35 on 05/07/2020 - 07:46
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Sorry, I do not see any

Sorry, I do not see any record in Morroblivion which over-writes the scripts or AI packages involved in that specific Oblivion quest.  What is your load order?  Are you using any combat overhaul mods or OBSE plugins?  Please confirm that starting a new game results in the same problem.  If so, then de-activate ONLY Morroblivion, then restart a new game and confirm that deactivating Morroblivion fixes the problem.  Please post the step by step directions to reproduce your problem here.  Thanks.

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That's a fairly common bug,

That's a fairly common bug, and is unrelated to Morroblivion.  UESP has a discussion of it.

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it's weird,once I deactivate Morroblivion it works fine,I had a different load order some time ago and I still have this problem with the new one
here it's the current one,I'll experiment with the inis,maybe I can fix it

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01 Morrowind_ob.esm
02 Windfall.esm
03 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.38]
04 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 5.0]
05 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 5.0]
06 Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm [Version 5.0]
07 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.74]
08 CM Partners.esm
09 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.6]
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0B DLCShiveringIsles.esp
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0D Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp [Version 5.0]
0E All Natural.esp [Version 1.38]
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12 Immersive Interiors - Imperial City.esp [Version 1.5]
13 Immersive Interiors - Landscape Addon.esp
14 GOSH.esp
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16 WindowLightingSystem.esp
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19 AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
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22 DLCOrrery.esp
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25 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11]
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29 DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
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31 Francesco's Optional House Chest Loot.esp [Version 5.0]
32 Francesco's Optional New Adventurers.esp [Version 5.0]
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71 mediumrebalance.esp
72 Ultimate Leveling.esp [Version 1.9.4]
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I'm not the only one who has this problem it seems

https://morroblivion.com/forums/morroblivion-problems/damolagbal-cursed-...

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Try this:

Try this:

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Thank you! It works now!

Thank you! It works now!

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To clarify what the above

To clarify what the above file does: the issue was related to Morroblivion's teleportation system (specifically divine/almsivi intervention) - it tracks the player position in outside world using an invisible marker, so the spells can correctly determine the closest temple the player can be teleported to. For reason unknown to me this marker was an invisible creature and constantly moving it to player position apparently somehow broke game AI when it comes to making decisions like picking up a weapon. The fix simple replaces the "marker" creature with regular XMarker object. I haven't noticed any adverse effects on teleportation spells by doing that.

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Great job with figuring out

Great job with figuring out the cause of this issue.  I would have literally spent years trying to do brute-force systematic isolation to have found this bug.  Regarding the "marker" creature, I think the reason for using "marker" creatures was due to the XMarker reset error that is described at the bottom of this page: https://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=Teleport_Recall

According to that article, the xmarkers reset to their original worldspace after quit/reloading.  Can anyone confirm if this issue does not affect interior cells?

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Oh, so that's why...

Oh, so that's why... Interesting, but I cannot actually reproduce the bug described there. Just did multiple tests both in Tamriel and Morroblivion worldscapes and the position of XMarker was always correctly stored in savegame.

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qwertyasdfgh wrote:

qwertyasdfgh wrote:

Try this:

How can I download the ESP? I only get a white page with strange symbols :/

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Right click on it and choose

Right click on it and choose "Save Link As" or the equivalent function in your browser.