A question regarding Skyrim.
This proberly is a stupid idea,but I have been thinking that although it is cool plan to get the morrowind and oblivion land masses into skyrim,has anyone thought that maybe it might be a better idea to get the skyrim landmass into the TES4 engine.?
The reason I ask is because,we already have morrowind and the oblivion stuff in TES4,and think that if the skyrim land was added to what we already have it would be a lot easier.
I know that most guys think that the skyrim graphics are better than TES4,but I like the feel and the graphics of oblivion.?
I am still interested in seeing it all in skyrim,and the above is just a thought.
Er, I see where you're coming from Ironman but I honestly can't stand the faces of Oblivion. They look hideous. Also Oblivion is too bright and squeaky clean. Skyrim on the other hand has much better faces, and both the NPCs and environment are a lot darker and grittier. To me it seems like Morrowind was meant to be in the Skyrim engine. That's another reason why I don't see why people would want Oblivion in Skyrim. Oblivion in Skyrim just wouldn't fit, but that's just my opinion.
I did not mean,convert the whole of skyrim over,you are right that would look bad,but if the landmass could be put above the top of the oblivion landmass it plus maybe the nord type buildings,then it could be used for extending the story line into that region after maybe the oblivion crisis.Just an idea for advancing what we have already.
But like I said all 3 in skyrim is cool to me too.
Just my 3 cents (decided to change it up a bit), after playing both Morrowind and Skyrim, I can't stand the Oblivion engine. There is exactly nothing that the Oblivion engine can do that those two games together can't do much better. That being said I still love the game of Oblivion.
I've decided that Oblivion was just an oddball that didn't quite meet that standard set by Morrowind. Skyrim did meet that standard, so now I am starting to not think of the separate games as having different feelings, but instead I am thinking more in terms of an Elder Scrolls feel.
I don't really agree with Clint on the part about how Oblivion would not feel right in Skyrim. Sure, it wouldn't feel like Oblivion, but It would feel much better, it would feel like it belongs in the Elder Scrolls Universe that we all love so much. We would be able to travel through Cyrodiil, and talk to people, without being constantly reminded that everything is out of place. Who knows, Oblivion might even get through the bad image it has received over the years about being the worst of the Elder Scrolls games. Though we are all entitled to our opinions.
I can also see where you are coming from. However, most people would still want to convert to Skyrim instead, and that would most likely leave us with two big projects instead of one. Besides, we won't have any converter in the forseeable future that would allow us to convert the Skyrim format to the Oblivion one.
My opinion on the question, well... (Im not rewrighting everything I just said idk what happend to my earlier comment but w/e)
I like you're ideas, but I just think its not worth the trubble, Oblivions Engine is not nice looking expeshaly in comparishion to Skyrim, I beleave we can give more meaning and feeling to Cyrodiil and Shivering isle than the original game. After seeing Andoran I know Skyrins engine has the ability to do so (Expeshaly with Morrowind). So I'd say lets put Morrowind and Oblivion onto Skyrim, all oblivion needs is a revamp and also Skyrims engine gives nice dark shaders and shadows so it would do most of the work for us.
Yep! I agree with all that you guys have said,and yes the TES5 grahics engine is cool.
But I was not trying to suggest that the 3 games in skyrim was not the best way,as I know it is for the same reasons that you have stated.
I quess I was just thinking that it looks like all of the hard work on morroblivion in TES4 is all going to be all for nothing when it`s all in TES5.
But like my first post states,it was a stupid idea I quess.
And I love what I heard about Skyrim's new features. In morrowind, it was creepy that NPCs have seemingly eyes in the back of their head - does Skyrim fix that by any chance?
Yeah sure, they had a total different system of detecting enemies than Skyrim, but since we'll be using the Skyrim engine it will use the Skyrim system of detecting enemies. No more NPC's seeing you from the back of their head from miles away.
No, thats not true. The work done on Oblivion was after all experiance and moving on the project does not mean to throw away Morroblivion, there will allways be people who will download it expeshaly the ones who cannot proccess Skyrim because there slow PC (I for example, till I get a new one).
I see your point guys,and it`s all cool with me,and I quess when morrowind is in TES5,it will still need a lot of mods done for it like morroblivion does.
Should be fun trying to get more beasts into morrowind in the TES5 engine.
Wait, is it official that you guys are putting Oblivion into it to.. eventually? o- o Please say yes >.<!!~
Nope. We might but most people will quit after morrowind is in skyrim
What?!?! That is a horrible reply. What makes you think everyone will quit. In case you havn't noticed a lot of the active members have been here for a long time. Some have been around for several years. You may quit, and some other people will probably quit along the way, but that doesn't mean the end for everyone. Even if some people do end up leaving, there are new members showing up every day, and at least some of them are bound to have some modding talent.
I believe we will start work on Oblivion after Morrowind is mostly complete, though it will most likely be a long time before that will happen.
Thank god, that other guy scared me...
Idk what service I could provide, I'm new to the new engine and have not used Nif Converter (though now isnt a bad time to try get use to it). Another thing, how do I get Skyrim without steam? Because I opened the data folder and its format of where everything is, is much different compare to Oblivion's and Morrowin's
It is impossible to get Skyrim without steam. Though I don't really know what you are talking about with the data folder being much different. It is exactly the same with the only difference being you have to open a few more folders before you finally reach it. Just navigate to your steam folder, then click on SteamApps, then common, and then Skyrim. From there on everything should be very familiar.
What I meant to say in my other post is that No one has started to work on converting Oblivion(in fact the andoran convertor doesn't fully convert The Oblivion Esm). and although many people will stay on this site to work on oblivion most stop to play Morrowind. The reason I came to this site was to help the team put Morrowind into Skyrim (and then Oblivion). But the perpose of Morroblivion was to resurrect morrowind(not Oblivion). Don't get me wrong I like Oblivion more then Morrowind(well At least the story) but I think Morrowind should be done first. It took 4 year to just make Morroblivion. A lot Of people are atleast gonna stop for awhile to play MorroRim before starting to make MorroSkyBlivion.
Okay, that makes a bit more sense. Though I should point out to you that Morroblivion did not take four years. The converter was created, and then work went to a stand-still. Then Dave came along in about October of 2010, and actually began real work on the .esm. So that was only about a year and a half ago. Then we have to take into account that the game was perfectly playable back when I found this site, and that was version 26 I believe. Over a year ago. In total, it probably could not have taken more than a few months for people to start enjoying the game. Of course we have to take into account that a few things are not converted this time around, but Eazzy is working on that. Really, all we need to do is find someone who is good with quests, and we could knock out a good portion of the project rather quickly.
Oh I see, I was confused to find the music folder compressed>.< which they didnt in Morrowind and Oblivion ugh.. I don't like the idea of "You have to have internet to intall the game" ._. did bethisda do this to keep marketing because of the tone of pirating?
Btw Ironman about you're question on this forum, I reconsider what I thought earlier. After seeing Tamriel Rebuilt update and Province Cyrodiil http://morrowind.nexusmods.com/mods/42155 I think Morrowind does look nice with it. But something about it feels repetative and like I said earlier, just not worth the trouble. Then again I am attempted to work on making such a mod for Morrowind. >.<
You can bet a large part of it is indeed to help reduce pirating.
However another part of it is that digital distribution really is the future and Steam is currently the most popular form of it. For example, I actually rebought Morrowind on Steam simply because now I don't need to worry about discs.
When this mod is ready I already have Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim all installed near eachother since I have all of them on Steam. Won't have to hunt down any old discs or anything.