Quests/Diaolgue
OfflineWell, I have started to add the quests to this game. So far i have put in about a 1/3 of the quest stages/ journal entries.
Once I have finished that I will add the topics and greetings, only about 1/2 the topics converted over so at least that lessens the work load a bit.
Once all the dialogue and quest stages are added then comes the task of linking them all together and getting the quests to flow, which i have a bit of trouble with, my quests at the moment seem to go from the greeting, choosing a response then straight to thanking me for completing the mission. But I'll worry about that later, first, I'm getting the dialogue added.
UPDATE:
Just to let you know I am about 3/4 complete of adding the quest stages/journal entries. Who would have guessed there is over 4000 lines of text in the journal.
This is the easy bit as it is just a lot of cut and paste.
Next the dialogue which is a lot trickier as it has conditions to deal with.
Just note, when I'm finished adding all the dialogue don't expect fully working quests, that will come later, expect lots of things to be broken, but at least having all the dialogues and topics we will be one step closer to a complete game.
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what about guild quests and house quests? i was thinking we could just keep the same from morrowind..i honestly like the fighters guild quests from MW more then those from Oblivion
oh and add the corprus disease with the respective quest..i love the fact that you suffer a lot from the disease but when you're done you get 100% disease resistance
Sounds neat, keep up! There's a mod for the main quest, you should create a plugin that includes the guild quests.
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I had that main quest mod. It works some times but there was alot of issues with disposition and level that would stop you from continuing. It would be a good place to continue the quests from though since all the dialouge is there.
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Good news, I have finished adding the quest stages/journal text.
Next, I'll do the dialogue greetings.
In case anyone was wondering, there are 776 quests.
awesome sauce!! did you get corprus running?
Yes I know there's a lot of quests, but you can ask for help... I mean, the best option will it be to have a diversity of choices, one person can handle the Fighters Guild Questline, other the Mages Guild Questline and so on. Then you can merge the ESP's.
There's just too many quests in the world (including the random ones) and it's not a bad idea if you ask someone to help you.
Keep up!
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So are you working on all the main quest ? and the guilds quest from what im reading ? Because if so thats awesomesauce! do you need any help ?
Have u finished with quests?
Did u uploaded?
I cant wait!!!!!!!! xDDDDD
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Right, so I need to explain myself better.
All I have done so far is add all the text that gets put into your journal and set the quest stages.
The quest stages are what the game looks at to see where you are in a quest and decide what dialogue to show you in conversations, the quest stages are just numbers with some text attached. Without quest stages there will be no dialogue.
For example, here are some quest stages and the resulting text that will show in your journal,
Quest stage 10 = I talked to some idiot about a quest
Quest stage 20 = I don't know why, but I've agreed to do his dumb quest
Quest stage 100 = I've done his quest, and got a crappy reward.
Once all the quest stages, topics and greetings are added to the game, it will make it a whole lot easier to make the quests, cause then you will just have to link them all together, define the correct parameters and so on.
So in summary, I have made no working quests.
A break through of sorts
For those people familiar with the quest editing, from the small amount i've tested, most of the dialogue topics are complete, but are missing the greetings and quest stage updates to progress the dialogue.
What this means, is that i only have to add the correct greeting to an NPC, use the addtopic function and link the topics to the correct quest stage.
An example of my testing, I adding a greeting to Vodunius Nuccius in Seyda Neen and linked it to his already converted response, then while in the game, he greeted me,(the only text i added) told me to see go see Darvame Hleran at the Stilt Strider and he gave me another topic where i could ask about himself. I walked to Darame Hlern and she had a topic about Vodunius i could choose.
All this with just adding 1 greeting. If this happens for every quest it will be easy.
Happy times.
Another update for those that are interested
I have added all 4000+ greetings into the construction set( not the game yet) it only took an hour once i discovered a handy shortcut.
Next I'll be linking these greetings to the respective NPC, once this is done most NPCs in game will greet you with appropriate dialogue, this may take a while though.
Then I'll probably release an Alpha version for the active modding members on this site just so your Vvardenfell is not so boring, and you can somewhat talk to people in game.
AWESOME SAUCE
can't wait!
btw you haven't replied to my question yet..will corprus disease exist? with the propper cure obviously
daemonnnn
All quests will exist eventually, But right now I'm dealing with greetings, you can't have a quest without a greeting right.
First up I'm thinking about doing the greetings in Seyda Neen then I might release that as a teaser pack.
yeah i know xP i did say i can't wait for the greetings pack..the quests will take awhile..i'm just curious to know if you plan doing it or not xP pls make a quest with corprus and fyr and stuff
I've been making good progress, learning the ins and outs of function variables.
I've got NPC's greeting me differently depending on their disposition towards me.
I'm going to wait until I've done all the towns then I'll release a Greetings Alpha Plugin. No quests though.
Something I've notice with my testing though, is that the voiced Oblivion greetings will no longer trigger while using my Morrowind greetings. I personally like this as it gives it more of a Morrowind feel, and all the quests will be non-voiced also so it all sort of fits.
What do you guys think??
i like it and since some ppl use the universal silent voice,most won't even mind..also if possible,it would be awesome if you could get the MW voices there to...like "what is it oulander,what do you want?" and phrases like that
I believe the voices will be easy enough to put in.
sweet..you keep doing your awesome work then
if you finish this up well enough,you'll be my fav modder evar!! xD
yeah man nice work. As for the voices they should be done eventually but how to decide on who to make them I wonder. Maybe some try outs of sorts to see whos voice matches the charecters the most i'd suppose. But that's probably a long way off.
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Greetings update
Progress is going well, I've only got 10 more towns to go of localised greetings, i.e, "Welcome stranger to Seyda Neen", Or "Hi pilgrim, this is Vivec"
It's working quite well in game, with people greeting you depending on where you are, what you disposition towards them is and whether you have spoken to them before or not.
But that is all you get at the moment, no choices added yet.
Will hopefully have a release in the next few days (alpha release that is) There are still some issues i can't deal with, but if i release it someone else might get it working, such as displaying character names in dialogue, think it needs OBSE for that.
Finished the localised greetings. Those members who are contributing to the project send me a PM with your address and I'll mail out the "Greetings Alpha" plugin.
The shivering isles have their own set of greetings so it would make sence that some of the greetiungs in Morrowind be different from Cyrodil, *thought bubble* Morrowind + Oblivion + Expansion packs and plugins for both = biggest game ever + mods = bye bye social life.
can you please upload an alpha of this cause this mod is gonna die unless something is done please please plz!!!!!!
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lol WOOT? you joking man? this mod isn't dead at all!!! it's as lively as can be! stop saying it's dying when it isn't!
you're drawing modders away from us that way so pls stop griefing
And read the forum!!
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=19132
There is a main quest out jam_88 You just have to look for it theres the link its not done yet thou.
@jam_88:
This is a new project that Some Chump is currently working on, how can you say that is dead? Please, try to check the posting date before making such comments. Besides, he said that there's an Alpha available, but you need to send a PM with your email, try to pay attention next time, allright?
Seeya.
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OK I'm really sorry its just at the time nobody had said anything in 3 days and it was getting to me i just thought that cause he hadn't said anything for so long when before he was really active well yeh but can some please give a progress update
I'm sowy
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I'm still working on this, still working out the CS. I've still got 3000+ lines of text I need to write conditions for, I think I've done about 1/5 of the dialogue lines.
And like I said, if you want an alpha release PM me your details, but only if you are contributing to the project.
Jam_88
You have been a member of this for 2 days and assume that its falling apart? That's not cool man read up a little more before you just assume some thing. Some_chump keeps us updated on what he's got done. So when he get's done with some more he'll give ust the heads up. And this forum isn't like the nexus with its 100,000+ members so be patient if there hasn't been a post in a couple of days.
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OK really really sorry and i mean really it's just if he completes this it would be awesome i mean almost better than the guy who made morroblivion and i know i have only been a member for a short time but i have been going on this website for about a month so yeh i am seriously sorry though so one or 2 comments against me was OK but just let go of it already and again im sorry
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@jam_88:
No one is against you, we certanly don't have time for that... since we're busy with our modding projects. But if you're here only to "share" your anxiety and to demand us to finish stuff, well then you have no right to complain. Are we getting the picture here?
So, if you want us to let go, just don't complain anymore, the last thing we need is more anxiety and complains from new users. That's all, next time pay attention and besides everyone has the right to say what they feel about you, since we're in a open Forum.
Have fun, and let us finish this, we are getting too off topic.
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some chump
is writing the lines a bit repetitive and how much code is there to it as i know some programming and if it's very repetitive i think me and even people who have never programmed before could help just wondering
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Yeah, I could use some help.
There is no programming that needs writing, it's just a case of copying the morrowind topic conditions into morroblivion. Mostly simple, but slow and boring. PM me your details and Ill send you some stuff.
Now, progress so far...
Quest stages and journal entries Done (Needed to advance quests and dialogue)
Localised greetings Needs minor tweaking (Different greetings in each town)
Topics WIP (What you can ask people, also advances quests)
Individual Greetings ToDo (Used to start conversations and quests)
As a side effect of doing topics, I managed to get Siltstrider, boat and mage guild transport working, which looks like something Galadrielle incorporated into the converter, as it was all in french.
well those transports were already there and working man.. that's not you lol
Well i know that i could help you , my work load for the mod is kinda all over the place thou, so i dont know how much you would see done from me this section as others ?
another question i am probably more of a pest but does it require any morrowind expansions like tribunal or blood moon cause i just have morrowind it was hard enough to find that game in shops but i fine with oblivion expansion a have all of those
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My morroblivion has both expansions, tribunal and bloodmoon, and also some of the addons like Firemoth.
It won't make a noticeable difference if you don't have them all, you just wont see the dialogue topics relating to the expansions.
So if anyone is interested in helping, send me a PM with your e-mail, otherwise this will take a long time.
What i need help with is adding the topics, Dialogue choices and conditions. Fairly straightforward stuff, but time consuming. It's just copying what is in the Morrowind CS into Oblivion cs,
so basically this mod is going to allow you to do all the quests in morrowind?
what about quest items?
Most quest items still need to be added to the game.
*waits with anticipation....
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This is a list of quest items:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Quest_Items
I will try to improve some of the unique modells
sorry i have not had time to work on any yet i will tell you when and if i do(in my spare time been learning C++)
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i'm working on some quest items.
here is the Dwemer puzzle Box
What modells do you need?
At the moment I'm still working on dialogue, haven't started with the quests yet. But eventually, all quest items will be needed.
Time for an update...
Don't worry, I'm still working on this, and it's coming along nicely.
Morrowind greetings are divided into 9 different categories:
Greetings 0: Npc is alarmed
Greetings 1: Quests (actually quests where it doesn't matter if the Player is a vampire, is nude, is a criminal, is diseased.
Greetings 2: Player is a vampire/player is nude
Greetings 3: Traitors to Morag Tong
Greetings 4: Crime and disease
Greetings 5: Quests
Greetings 6: Factions
Greetings 7: Classes, Endgame, Slaves
Greetings 8: Clothes (general greetings concerning how player is dressed)
Greetings 9: Locations.
I have mostly completed Greetings 6 thru 9 minus a few scripts and things. (I can't do scripting
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I'm working on Greetings 5 and about 1/2 way through, it deals with quest conversations and individual greetings.
It's quite interesting to talk to NPC's and see their topic choices increase the more they talk, just like in morrowind the topic list does get quite large.
NPC's will say different comments depending on how much they like me, what location I'm in and even what I'm wearing.
This mod looks like its coming along well Good Job vant wait to see the finished product keep it up!!!
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So what is the Jist on the wepons in the game?
Will thay lean for the oblivion wepons or the morrowind wepons?
If you are wundering why i ask becaues thair is a considirable diffrence in the two
Wrong thread for this question, and I don't really understand your language.
Hey,
Is it right you're adding also the dialogue for the two expansions (tribunal & bloodmoon)? I'm working on the Bloodmoon quests so if you allow me to it would be great if i could use your mod for dialogue and quest stages!
(edit: btw I can also help you with al the quest scripts)
Greetz,
Poco Loco (aka Oblivion44)