Jumping from v44 to v53 - crash on loading MW exteriors

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MrKWMonk
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Back after a long absence.

Updating my install from v44 to v53.  Downloaded the esm and support files #2, installed via BAIN and moved Morrowind_ob.esm up underneather Oblivion.esm.  Pretty much the same procedure I've followed for many previous versions.  I've got a few versions between 44 and 53 that I've also tested.

Tried with v53 and v51.  Both crash Oblivion when trying to load MW exteriors.  Tried boat to Seyda Neen and Ebonheart and also from an old save starting in the armour shop in Pelagiad.  Crash occurs right at the end of the save loading process in what looks like the transition from the loading screen to the exterior view.

If I go back to v44 or v47 she loads up ok.

Here's my load order.

Active Mod Files:
00  Oblivion.esm
01  Morrowind_ob.esm
02  Windfall.esm
03  Jog_X_Mod.esm
04  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
05  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
06  TR_OoT_Main.esm
07  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34Beta3]
08  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b1]
09  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm
0A  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9a7]
0B  Armamentarium.esm
0C  Toaster Says Share v3.esm
0D  MorrowOblivion_World Transport.esp
0E  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]
**  TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp
**  TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp
0F  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
10  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
11  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]
12  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
13  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
14  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
15  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
16  Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp
17  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
18  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
19  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
1A  oc_darker_nights.esp
1B  aaaBorsBedrolls.esp
1C  Spell Delete.esp
1D  Adonnays Classical Weaponry.esp
1E  Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp
1F  Armamentarium Fixes.esp  [Version 1.1.2b]
20  Wood Bows and Leather Armors.esp
21  Thieves Arsenal.esp
22  Thieves_Arsenal_Patch_033010.esp
23  Daedric Lord Armor.esp
24  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
25  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
26  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
27  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
28  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34Beta3]
29  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp
2A  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp
2B  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
2C  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]
2D  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
2E  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
2F  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b1]
30  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b1]
31  Mart's Monster Mod - Vindasel.esp  [Version 3.7b1]
32  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b1]
33  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b1]
34  Mart's Monster Mod - Durzog Addon.esp  [Version 0.10]
35  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
36  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
37  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
38  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
39  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
3A  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
3B  TIE In.esp  [Version 1.07]
3C  TIE In - FCOM Convergence.esp  [Version 1.07]
3D  TIE In - RealSwords.esp  [Version 1.07]
3E  TIE In - MMM Craft.esp  [Version 1.07]
3F  TIE In - DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 1.07]
40  TIE In - BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 1.07]
41  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 0.18]
42  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp
43  LandTexturesWithGrassPlusLOD.esp
44  Akaviri Imports.esp
45  Vvardenfell_Imports.esp
46  Bandit Hideouts.esp
47  Beginners_Dungeon-7741.esp
48  OldCrowInn.esp  [Version 1.5]
49  The Ayleid Steps.esp
4A  thievery.esp
4B  VaultsofCyrodiil.esp
4C  Windfall.esp
4D  za_bankmod.esp
4E  Lynges_Thieves_Highway-10256.esp
4F  Knights.esp
50  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]
51  TIE In - Knights.esp  [Version 1.06]
52  The Lost Spires.esp
53  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
54  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp
55  FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
56  Vergayun.esp  [Version 1.0]
57  Castle_Seaview.esp
58  bartholm.esp
59  Valenwood Improved.esp
5A  ElsweyrAnequina.esp
5B  ElsweyrAnequinaMTP.esp
5C  ElsweyrValenwoodImprovedPatch.esp
5D  Walkabout.esp
5E  TR_Stirk.esp
5F  (DC) Sutch Reborn.esp
60  OOO-Sutch patch.esp
61  ClothingReplacer.esp
62  Oblivionized Enchants.esp
63  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp  [Version 2.11]
64  Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.0]
65  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
66  Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp
67  ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp
68  Short Grass V3.esp
69  Telekinetic Mastery.esp  [Version 2]
6A  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.88]
6B  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]
6C  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.87]
6D  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.82]
6E  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.80]
6F  SM_UnlockSpells.esp  [Version 0.70]
70  SM_NoSpellLights.esp  [Version 0.70]
71  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]
72  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]
73  MidasSpells.esp
74  EnchantmentRestore.esp
75  Morroblivion Conversation.esp
76  StealthOverhaul.esp
77  RenGuardOverhaul.esp
78  RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp
79  Adrenaline Fuelled Archery- Bow Sway.esp
7A  Denock Arrows.esp
7B  kuerteeAttributeAndSkillBasedDamageModifiers.esp
7C  Duke Patricks - NPC MAGIC and Arrows Can Miss Now.esp
7D  nGCD.esp
7E  nGCD Birthsigns.esp
7F  nGCD Character Generation.esp
80  nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp
81  nGCD Skeleton Key.esp
82  Immediate Character Generation.esp
83  Let There Be Darkness.esp
84  Let There Be Darkness - Shivering Isles.esp
85  Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp
86  Stat Restore.esp
87  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b1]
88  Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp
89  Companion Postal Service.esp
8A  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.69EV]
8B  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]
8C  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.62EV]
8D  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]
8E  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]
8F  bgMagicAlchemy.esp  [Version 1.57]
90  bgMagicEVNoSorting.esp
91  bgMagicEV_Conjuration_for_Supreme_Magicka.esp  [Version 1.5]
92  Disable Tutorial Text.esp
93  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.0]
94  -No-_persistant_enchantment_glow_fix-1843.esp
++  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [Version 1.68]
95  bgMagicLightningbolt.esp
96  No_Glow_a_go_go_Version_10.esp
97  Lightweight Potions.esp  [Version 1.1]
98  Enhanced Hotkeys.esp  [Version 2.3]
**  Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp  [Version 1.03]
99  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 4.3]
9A  Morrowind Lockpicking.esp
9B  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9]
9C  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
**  Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer.esp
9D  Streamline 3.0.esp

 

Any suggestions?

 

Thanks!

KwM

 

Dave B
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Load Orders

I am not going to pretend to be an expert on Load Order, so I couldn't tell you how all of these will play together, except that I have a good portion of them installed myself.

Presumably these all work together without Morrowind?

The first thing you need to try is to disable everything Except Morrowind_ob.esm and see if you still crash. If so, then you are missing meshes or textures, which is most likely the case.

Then, I would try loading without using OBSE as one of the scripts from one of these mods my be causing problems.

If not, then you are back to trying to figure out what is conflicting. I'm sorry that I cannot help beyond that.

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Just in case it helps someone

Just in case it helps someone else...

I fixed this when I realising I'd jumped a number of versions and neglected to install some of the extra files required.

Specifically these files...

Morroblivion Vvardenfell Creatures by Hashmi 181.5 MB

Morroblivion Miscellaneous Items & Ingredients by Eloth 87.3 MB

Morroblivion Henshu Lute Music 105 MB

 

Cheers

kaos war monk

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