[OUTDATED] Morroblivion Unofficial Patch 2017-Dec-18

Tel AshHello, can you post the whole list of patches used please? I might want to install some and do not install others.

Sorry, I included the mod list in the Docs of the mod download rather than a separate download.  It's now also available as a separate PDF for users to look to decide if they want to download the actual mod.  Thanks for pointing that out.

**EDIT: There is an error in the PDF, No Havok Clutter is optional (separate download) and not part of the core patch.**

PuddlesPonyrider, do you want me to make a BAIN package for the patch?

That sounds good.  [External image]  I did not initially package the unofficial patch as BAIN because I wanted it to be easily used by people who don't know how to use Wrye Bash... but I forgot that Morroblivion itself is already BAIN-only, hehe.

Thanks for all the positive feedback so far!  I really appreciate it!  Hope everyone has a very happy winter break playing Morroblivion!

BullfrogThank you for creating this update. I have a question. Does it contain a fix for the infamous bug where dead bodies are falling through the floor in Daedric shrines?

Some but not all.  There seem to be two causes: buggy collision boxes and buggy pathgrids set too low for the Oblivion engine.  I've fixed a few places by moving the pathgrid up a few units into the air (ex, Battle at Nchurdamz).  I'll test this fix to see if it works as a general fix for the Daedric Shrines.  Thanks!

Update:
Moving the pathgrid nodes up in "Ald Sotha, Upper Level" did not work. However, while I was testing, I figured out that the dead bodies (and all non-actor items) appear to be falling through the floor only on specific floor tiles and never on others.  In fact, if killed on a staircase with good collision data, the dead body will sometimes roll down the staircase and then fall through the floor when it crosses over into a tile with bad collision data.

I compared the NIF files for a tile with working collision (Meshes\morro\i\InUDAEUhallULU01.nif) and one that does not work (Meshes\morro\i\InUDAEUhallULU4wayU01.nif).  It looks like all the values in the bhkCollisionObject and bhkRigidBody nodes are exactly the same.  Visual inspection of the collision polygons for both files look appropriate too, with polygon faces all pointed towards the interior. 

That leaves the MOPP data as the likely source of the problems.  This NIFTools webpage states that MOPP data are "scripts used by the engine to speed up collision detection of arbitrary shapes".  It would make sense if these data are broken, that the errors we see would occur.  It could also explain why Morrowind seems to be much more demanding on CPU power for collision detection than the regular Oblivion maps (of course, qwertyasdfgh said this exact same thing six years ago, hehe).  Unfortunately, if you read through that link to qwertyasdfgh's tutorial, you'll see that the Daedric shrines have already been updated with his fix method, and obviously, dead bodies are still falling through the floor.  I'll put this on my todo list of things to test in the future.

Update 2:
I just realized that the polygon faces that I saw pointing towards the interior were the main model mesh and not the collision polygon.  If the collision poly has the faces pointing to exterior, flipping them would be an easy​ straightforward fix.

I just posted a new Daedric Shrine Collision Fix mod in the first post.  This will fix the bug where dead bodies would fall through the floor in Daedric Shrine Interiors.  The fix was done by opening each Daedric Shine NIF file in Blender, checking if the floor collision polygon was upfacing (non-black) and if it was bugged, then using Blender's "Flip Normals" command to flip the offending polygons.  This will be merged with the next unofficial patch. 

If you find any additional interior floor tiles where dead bodies fall through: please open the console (tilde "~" key), click on the bugged floor tile and write down the formID.  Then post the formID here.  Thanks.

BullfrogI got another question. You mention that a new game is required to use this update. Can you tell me the specific reason? I'd rather not start again as I have finished Oblivion and almost finished Morrowind (haven't been in the addon worlds yet).

In my opinion, most people installing this mod are interested in a more stable and less bugged gameplay experience -- and using a pre-existing saved game with this mod has a high chance of producing the opposite experience for them.  It would be similar to using a saved game which was started with an older version of Morroblivion (before v064) with the current one (v064). 

You can try out your saved game to see if it works and if you can live with any missing items or broken quests, but a suggestion: rather than uninstalling all of your old bugfix mods to install this unofficial patch, just make a new, separate Oblivion/Morroblivion installation and then install the unofficial patch in there.  Also, back up your saved games first!

Technical Details:
The main concern is script instability and incompatible quest/dialog conditions.  Many of the mods introduced new records with formIDs using that mod's local index.  Any quests or scripts which depend on these new records would become corrupted when replacing those mods with this patch.  Any weapons, armors, spells, enchantments or other items that were based on these new formIDs would be deleted as well.

In the future, I'll think about making an "export/import character" utility: your character level/stats/skills could be preserved, along with inventory items that are from the base Morroblivion game.  But you would start with all quest and worldspace states reset to a new game.

Try this link: http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Class_Quiz
Good luck!

The answer choices are currently hardcoded into the fbmwChargenQuestScript (010089D3).  You will probably need to edit the dialog lines in the script with the CSE to recompile the script when you are done. 

The subtitled dialog lines are extra long, so the best way to edit it is through TES4Edit (to preserve the full text length).  The dialog topic and info records can be found at mwCGTalkClassQuiz (0403569C), assuming that Morroblivion_Unofficial_Patch.esp is loaded at mod index 04.

Sorry, I will add it to the first post: https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/31981?tab=files

roxon_55

The Shrine you have done , Are they Listed Above.

All daedric shrines (hopefully) should now be fixed.  I made the changes in the daedric dungeon NIF tile set rather than in each specific shrine.

Gregthegen

I wanted to thank the poster of this mod for his tutorials, I bought Morrowind GOTY 8 years ago but never played it as I was spoiled by Oblivion and Skyrims VA and other content, Ive used this patch along with other mods released by this author to enhance my game tenfold and actually get into morroblivion as I wait for Skywind!

Thanks!!  When the Tamriel Rebuilt Conversion / Mod Converter project is complete, hopefully everyone in the Morroblivion community will get to experience where Morrowind truly shines: the tons of Morrowind Mods like TR, Rebirth, Less Generic NPCs, Morrowind Comes Alive, etc! [External image]

roxon_55

A Floor and Step Combo ,,01863b46,, A couple Pic Floor and Step Combo where player is Half in the Floor. If you can do anything with them..

Ok, I see the problem -- the Collision Poly for "morro\i\InUDAEUconnectULcave.nif" is not lined up with the actual model.  I will try to fix the alignment and hopefully get it into the next patch update when I get back home (I am still out of town).  Thanks!

roxon_55

No Probs when you get the Chance could we have error listing for 2018 ..

Edit.

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Thanks.

Working on the Buglist updates now... will hopefully be done later today.

UPDATE:

Finally finished the Buglist updates.  Updating the list took longer than I thought (mainly due to jet-lag and unrelated physical exhaustion from my trip).  I'll try to fix a couple of the active bugs but my main focus for the next Unofficial Patch will be to just merge all the extra files into the main ESP.

I just posted an updated Morroblivion Unofficial Patch (2017-Dec-18).  It's now just one BAIN file which contains the core ESP + Magic Addon as well as the optional files.  All the additional bugfixes have been merged into the core or Magic addon.  Please see the first post for Readme and Change Log.  Outdated files such as the 2017-Nov-22 patch can be found under the "Older Files" section in the first post.  Non-BAIN mod packages have been uploaded in the first post as well.

The Morroblivion Unofficial Patch should not alter strength encumbrance at all.  It can however, be configured to modify run/walk speed and fatigue drain rate.  There are INI Tweaks which are included with the patch to enable these features.  Perhaps you accidentally enabled one.  Disable any related INI Tweaks which affect these settings and make sure they are manually turned off (set to 0) in your Morroblivion.ini:

set mwFixes.StrictMWRunSpeed to 0
set mwFixes.StrictMWFatigueDrain to 0
set mwFixes.StrictMWAll to 0    

If you are still having problems after all that, then send me your load order and I'll try to figure out what's wrong.

BloodbeardThanks for the speedy response! I dont have access to my load order atm but the mods I use are: (these are sorted using LOOT, this isnt a reflection of the correct load order) ]Morroblivion v064 OBSE MenuQue USV VoiceFileRedirector Blockhead Oblivion Character Overhaul 2 Unofficial oblivion patch DarkNified UI Weight Lifter weightless oblivion items Before I found this patch I had installed [REL] Morroblivion Fixes v1.8 but then uninstalled it as it started to crash my setup contantly. When I load into the game if I open my inventory right away everything is fine, then about 20 seconds later I become encumbered.

When you are able, please upload a list of the actual ESMs and ESPs and their load order.  You may still have an ESP from some other mod installed that is changing your encumbrance via a script.  There are over 100 modified or new scripts added by the Morroblivion Unofficial Patch.  I've only been able to review about 4-5 scripts which I think could potentially cause your problems.  Of those, I only found the Werewolf script making schanges to the StrengthEncumbranceMultiplier.  Unless you have transitioned to werewolf form at least once, that's probably not the problem.  Post your ESP/ESM load order when you can and I will review it.

I see at least one problem: Morroblivion_Unofficial_Patch.esp should be the last Morroblivion related plugin in your load order.  It contains records which are designed to fix UCWUS.esp, MorroblivionTreeReplacer.esp, Chargen and Transport Mod.esp...  So you must load it after these files -- but for safe measure, I recommend you load it as far down near the bottom as you can so that nothing will override it.  If this is where you put the Morroblivion-Fixes v1.8, then that would be why it was crashing.  I'm sure not why the Unofficial Patch isn't crashing for you since it incorporates almost every part of Fixes 1.8.  

Hopefully, once you move the Morroblivion Unofficial Patch down to below all the Morroblivion ESPs (but above the two Weight mods), your problems will go away.  If that still doesn't work, try starting a new game and testing to see if your encumbrance is fixed.

UPDATE:
Nevermind, I found the bug!  When you load your game, type this line into the console before your encumbrance changes:

set oldencoumbrancesetting to GetGameSetting fActorStrengthEncumbranceMult

After you type in that command, save your game -- that saved game should now be permanently fixed.  I will try to work on a patch to fix this bug, but until then, this command will have to be typed once whenever you start a new game or an old saved game in which you haven't applied the command yet.

** You still need to move your Morroblivion Unofficial Patch down below the other Morroblivion/Morrowind ESPs -- otherwise, the bugs it fixes will be over-written by the older files.

Kalnwer

Hello ponyrider

Do you have any plans on updating this patch in the near future?

Jus t want to know if I should wait or start a new game at this moment?

I will be posting some individual bug-fixes, but I probably won't have time to update the unofficial patch until November/December 2018.

I just posted a Telvanni_Archmagister_Hotfix patch which fixes a dialog bug that could prevent you from completing the Telvanni quest line (permanently stuck at rank "Master").  If you are stuck at rank "Master", then you'll need the hotfix + the console command in the update of first post to reset your rank so you can complete the skipped quests.

FYI, I've posted a couple of hotfixes/updates to the Morroblivion Unofficial Patch over the past few weeks.  You will need to install them after the Morroblivion Unofficial Patch.

Found the problem -- master IDs got switched.  I'll repost in a few hours.

Should be fixed now.