[RELZ] Oblivionized Enchants

Please keep trying: this would be invaluable.

I'm assuming you have read this thread: http://morroblivion.com/magic-items-have-constant-effect-instead-of-cast-when-used

If not, there is a lot of information there.  I posted a spreadsheet with all of the items that need to be fixed as well...

It's a complex problem, not for the faint of heart.

Actually it is possible though it is technically not an "enchantment"...

A while back I have placed scripts which gives the weapon its original enchantment, it isnt cast when used, but the script gives you the spell which works the same way.

e.g. adds a fireball spell when equipped with enchanted weapon...

Be mindful that several weapons and armor already have scripted enchantments on so be careful not to modify them though thats only a few... Demons/Devil helms and weapons, Magebane and such..

If anyone else can think of a better option/alternative go ahead!

So your saying you did a script like:

begin onequip

player.addspell macefireball

end

begin onunequip

player.removespell macefireball

end

? I think that would work great, all though, how would you handle running out of enchantment / recharging the weopon? (I think it would be fine to drop the need to recharge those types of weopons....)

Cool!

first off IO want to mention that caste when used was really annoying not only did scrolling to the item unequip your current weapon,armor,ring etc  it would continue to do so when scrolling, I for one do not miss it as a lot of the enchantments were crap, although some  like a ring of shock storm was incredibaly useful.

with that said I think it would be best to try and script these items to act as scrolls or something like that, or to give some sort of spell

those are my thoughts

That would probably take more scripting if it is possible haha... I can only do basic scripting so I wouldn't know :P

Perhaps something like this?

begin OnAdd player

...

player.AddSpell SpellName

...then...

begin OnDrop player

...

RemoveSpell SpellName

• OnAdd
• OnDrop
• AddSpell
• RemoveSpell

Also this is interesting but we would not want to permanently add the spell - it would need to be removed once the item is removed from the inventory. Hopefully OnDrop would accomplish this...

Oh, Good call HeWhoWatches. That example's better than mine, since yours is adding the spell whenever the player has the equipment, not just when its equiped. I hadn't thought of that, lol. And good call on the links too. :D

This works:

Scn CastWhenUsedTestScript
short AlreadyExists
begin OnAdd player
	if player.AddSpell 0fireball == 0
		set AlreadyExists to 1
	else
		player.AddSpell 0fireball
		set AlreadyExists to 0
	endif
end
begin OnDrop player
	if AlreadyExists == 0
		player.RemoveSpell 0fireball
	endif
end

...and it will not add the spell if the player already has it (otherwise it might get removed when the item is dropped).

However, I can't see any way to do this without making it just a spell... i.e. the item won't have a charge and the spell when cast will use the magicka of the player. It will just basically add a spell and remove it when the item is dropped. Somehow that seems... a little wrong to me. Oh well, you decide! ;)

yeah sorry my spelling was horrible there, anyways I know only a little bit of scripting and little about oblivions engine whatever you guys are able to do is perfectly fine, hope progress is going well !

I also had a thought if we were to oblivionize the enchentments we could down grade the effects for instance  the thiefs rings would give a constant fortification of +2 instead of fifteen, that way the effects are rather minor but would still be something of use for beginning charecters.

Sweet!

Just for clarification, are you saying that you used the script to give and take spell, or that you downgraded items to constant effects?

Thanks Seferoth! 

Sounds good! It also sounds like a lot of work. ;) It'll be nice to have usable enchanted items in morrowind.

I'll download it now!

Thanks Seferoth!

haha okay. ;D

Thank you for your efforts.  Will check it out.

Would this be the sort of thing that gets merged into the base morroblivion esm?

Cheers

I like that idea. ;)

I like the mod but the problem is still what thermador said. Enchanted items are way too powerful and they're worth way too much money. This needs to be fixed.

If nobody can to count vars for every enchanted thing cause of Oh!blivion, I suppose that something like adding bad effects can be usable without any gameplay-breaking.

...or count only 5+2+1 +1 = 9 vars (each var for clothes {helm+cur+glvs+bts+pants}, 2 rings, 1 amulet, 1 weapon, which is already equipped ) - maximum of vars; we'll need them, if every item has casting type enchantment.

E.g.

1.  player equips SMTH
2. menu shows: Do you want to activate SMTH? Y/N.  N: player will use item as non-enchanted.
3. Y: How much POWER do you want to sacrifice for charging SMTH? (power of pretty/lesser/common/greater/grand soul gem)
4. Var for player's SMTH grows for X, and he gives -1  pretty/lesser/common/greater/grand soul gem (only if he has got one)  (if the soul gem is an Azura's Star, nothing will work ) AND player gets the ability to cast spell X times. 
5. Var becomes 0 after player drops his SMTH or put it back to the inventory.
6. When var becames 0, goto 2.

Hey, great work on the mod. I have an issue though. It doesn't seem to be working for all items. Do you have any idea what it could be and what I could do to remedy it?

scottius

It doesn't seem to be working for all items.

This is a very old mod, which was built on whatever version of Morroblivion was current at the time. Judging by the update timestamp on the original post, said base version could not have been newer than 0.37—a full 30 releases before the current version of Morroblivion. Among other things, some minor Morrowind DLC got merged into Morroblivion, which naturally resulted in additional enchanted items.

That all being said, I have personally taken on the task of updating Oblivionized Enchants to fit the current version of Morroblivion. It is a work in progress—I still need to filter through weapon enchantments with self-targeted effects—but it already covers all apparel enchantments currently used by the game. I will post the updated version on this thread once I have finished polishing it.