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Loadorder problem -Crash on new game

Submitted by Starkjason on

Hello,

I've just installed Morroblivion using the complete installation thread, The game starts up just fine, but when i try to begin a new game about half-way through the loading screen it crashes. I've tried moving esps around with wyrebash but that didn't work :(

I'd appreciate any advice given, Here is my loadorder;

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Active Mod Files:
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00  Oblivion.esm
01  Morrowind_ob.esm
02  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]
03  Morrowind_ob - Unique Grass.esp
04  Morrowind_ob - Silt Striders.esp
05  Morrowind_ob - COBL Luggage.esp
06  Morrowind_ob - Conversation.esp
++  Morrowind_ob - ClothingReplacer.esp
07  Morrowind_ob - MorroblivionTreeReplacer.esp
08  Morrowind_ob - MorroblivionWater.esp
09  Morrowind_ob - Morroblivion Maps.esp
0A  Morrowind_ob - Nerevarine Armor.esp
0B  Morrowind_ob - Morroblivion_Chargen_And_Transport_Mod_v10.esp
0C  Morrowind_ob - UCWUS.esp  [Version BETA5]
0D  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]
0E  MorrowOblivion_Integration_SM.esp
0F  Morroblivion - Lost Magic OBME.esp  [Version 0.5]
10  Morroblivion Conversation.esp
11  MorroblivionLighthouseHome.esp
12  Storms & Sound.esp
13  Morroblivion Storms and Sound Patch.esp
14  MorroblivionLoadingScreens.esp  [Version 0.3]
15  Morroblivion - Buyable Houses.esp
16  MorrowOblivion_Integration_CO.esp
++  Morroblivion Conversation - The Lost Spires Patch.esp
++  Morroblivion - See You Sleep Patch.esp
**  Morroblivion - Clothing Galore.esp  [Version 1.2]
17  UOPS Additional Changes.esp
18  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
19  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
1A  MM_NoMoreAnnoyingMessages-Lite.esp
1B  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]
1C  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]
++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]
1D  DLCOrrery.esp
1E  DLCFrostcrag.esp
1F  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]
**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]
**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]
20  DLCThievesDen.esp
21  DLCVileLair.esp
22  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]
**  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]
23  DLCSpellTomes.esp
24  Knights.esp
25  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]
26  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
++  SM_Morroblivion_poison.esp
27  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.4.3]
28  ProtocolledDialogs.esp
29  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.90]
2A  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_NoSpellLights.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.90]
2B  The Lost Spires.esp
2C  OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp
++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp  [Version 0.76]
++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]
++  Item interchange - Placement.esp  [Version 0.76]
2D  P1DseeYouSleep.esp
++  P1DseeYouSleep - VVAdvanced.esp
2E  FryingPan.esp
++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]
++  Cobl Races - Balanced.esp  [Version 1.52]
2F  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
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Thank you for your time :)

 

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You have a number of plugins loading before their masters. Use BOSS to sort your load order.

Morrowind_ob - Conversation.esp
Morroblivion Conversation.esp

You only need one. Morrowind_ob - Conversation.esp is newer.

Morroblivion - Lost Magic OBME.esp

Try loading after Bashed Patch.

++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]
** OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]

I don't see neither OOO nor MMM in your load order.

12 Storms & Sound.esp
2C OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp

You only need one of these. Take the OBSE version and rename it to Storms & Sound.esp

** Cobl Races TNR.esp [Version 1.53]
** Cobl Races TNR SI.esp [Version 1.53]

I don't think you need both.

 

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I did as you suggested and i am now able to start a new game, however it did take me several attempts, about 3/5 times it simply crashes.May be related to a new problem i've encountered

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I am unable to click on any buttons, or move any sliders. Arrow keys do work.

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You didn't installed the darnui/darkui correctly. You must change the font in oblivion.ini in \my games\oblivion according to the instruction. Or simplier download the BAIN/BAIN friendly packadge or if there is only the .omod/omod ready packadge download the tesmodmanagera and let to this program to perform all operation.

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Me too experience crash when starting a new game.

I have played previous(something like v50 or about it) version of Morroblivion without problems, but two days before I did a clean install with latest release of morroblivion, and now it simply crashes when I press New or load a save.

Okay, I deleted everything and reinstalled all stuff again. Still no luck. Also when I uncheck all morroblivion esm&esp, Oblivion itself runs quite fine.

My load order

Any suggestions?

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I managed to start it with only morrowind_ob.esm activated and all morrowind_ob esps disabled. New game started perfectly and I was in that ship as intended.

Now I just need to figure out which esp causes the crash... stay with me :)

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So... the cause of crashes is Morrowind_ob - Morroblivion_Chargen_And_Transport_Mod_v10.esp - without it, game starts perfectly.

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Go to Download Section Download Transport V7 try it

I can not run V 10 on wife Computer after you talk to Juib turn player around Crashes to Desktop Does not have a Problem with V7

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IM having the same issue I installed Morroblivion for the first time yesterday and it worked great but when i tried to load it up again i get CTDs when loading or stating a new game ive done a complete re-install of both oblivion and morroblivion but its still happening heres my load order

Any help would be appreciated and it also crashes even when i uncheck all morroblivion esp/esm's

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Have you tried sorting your load order using BOSS, and looking at the notes that the program generates?

Do you still get the crash with only Oblivion and the official expansion packs enabled?  If Morroblivion is disabled and it still crashes, it's probably not Morroblivion causing it.

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i used boss and all the mods worked the first time i loaded it then it just stopped working

These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.

  • Oblivion.esm Active
  • Morrowind_ob.esm Version 058 Active
    • Warning: This needs to load directly after Oblivion.esm to avoid landscape issues caused by a failure by the mod author to use TES4Gecko's "Move Worldspaces" function.
  • Mart's Monster Mod.esm Version 3.0 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.Spells, Actors.Stats, Delev, Factions, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}}
  • Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp Version 3.4.3 Active
    • Note: Use Standalone MOBS if using Frans or OMOBS if using FCOM/OOO. Both versions can be found here: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/28537
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, Creatures.Blood, Delev, Factions, Invent, NPC.Class, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}} and remove [C.Water] tag(s) (only exist in older version).
  • UOPS Additional Changes.esp Version 3.3.7 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Stats}}
  • UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp Version 1.0.0 Active
    • Note: Recommend removing if using Wrye Bash. A tweak for this exists in "Tweak Settings".
  • Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp Active
  • DLCShiveringIsles.esp Active
  • Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp Version 1.5.2 Active
    • Note: Use Standalone MOBS if using Frans or OMOBS if using FCOM/OOO. Both versions can be found here: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/28537
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Name, C.Owner, Delev, Factions, Invent, Names, Relev, Scripts, Stats, Relations}}
  • USIPS Additional Changes.esp Version 1.4.4 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
  • Atmospheric Loading Screens - Original Text.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics}}
    • Note: Move after Race Balancing Project if using that.
  • Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics}}
  • PCSoundInnocent.esp Version 2.6 Active
  • Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp Version 1.1 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Sound}}
    • Incompatible with: "More Immersive Sound", "Ambient Town Sounds", "Oblivifall - Ambient Dungeon SFX"
  • Map Marker Overhaul.esp Version 3.9.3 Active
  • Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp Version 3.9.3 Active
  • DLCHorseArmor.esp Active
  • DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.8 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Owner}}
  • DLCOrrery.esp Active
  • DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.5 Active
  • DLCMehrunesRazor.esp Active
  • DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.6 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Invent, Relev}}
  • DLCSpellTomes.esp Active
  • DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.1 Active
    • Incompatible with: 'CDM-CGO Compatibility plugins'.
  • Schwertleite Armor.esp Active
  • Colourwheels Sexy Stock Armor & Clothing Replacer.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics}}
  • Colourwheels Sexy SI Armor & Clothing Replacer.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics}}
  • DLCThievesDen.esp Active
  • DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.11 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.Stats, C.Light, C.Music, C.Name, Delev, Relev}}
  • DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp Version 1.0.11 Active
    • Note: Only for new game. Don't use for existing game.
  • Mart's Monster Mod.esp Version 3.0 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.Stats, Delev, Factions, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}}
  • Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp Version 3.0 Active
  • Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.esp Version 3.0 Active
    • Note: Outdated. Update to MMM 3.7+.
  • Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp Version 3.0 Active
    • Note: Will work with OOO 'light' but is not compatible with the 'full' installation of OOO.
    • Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
  • Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp Version 3.0 Active
    • Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
  • Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp Version 3.0 Active
  • Mart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.esp Version 3.0 Active
  • Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp Version 3.0 Active
  • Mart's Monster Mod - Increased Spawn Rates.esp Version 3.0 Active
  • Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp Version 3.0 Active
    • Note: Use either 'More Wilderness Life' or 'More Wilderness Life No Gates' but not both.
  • Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp Version 3.0 Active
    • Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
  • Morrowind_ob - Morroblivion_Chargen_And_Transport_Mod_v10.esp Version 024 Active
  • Morrowind_ob - MorroblivionTreeReplacer.esp Active
  • Morrowind_ob - Morroblivion Maps.esp Active
  • Morrowind_ob - ClothingReplacer.esp Version 033 Active
  • Morrowind_ob - MorroblivionWater.esp Active
  • Morrowind_ob - Conversation.esp Active
  • Voice Overs V002.esp
  • DLCBattlehornCastle.esp Active
  • DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.8 Active
  • DLCFrostcrag.esp Active
  • DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.8 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, C.Name, C.Owner, Creatures.Blood}} and remove [C.Climate, C.Light] tags
  • Knights.esp Active
  • Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.1.3 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIPackages, Factions, Relations}}
  • Oblivion XP.esp Version 4.1.5 Active
  • Woman's Move - Animation Replacer.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.Anims, NoMerge}}
  • Atmospheric Loading Screens - No Text.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics}}
  • ElaborateEyes.esp Version 1.1 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Eyes}}
  • Moonshadow Elves - NoSc.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NpcFaces, Hair, Eyes, R.Relations}}
  • Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp Version 3.0 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Body-Size-M, Body-Size-F, R.Relations}}

thats my bosslog 

i also tried de-activating all mods except morroblivion and the shivering isles and KOTN and its still crashing, 

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AngelSlayer20

i used boss and all the mods worked the first time i loaded it then it just stopped working

 

Try Deleting  Oblivion.ini  in User\User Name\Documents\My Games\Oblivion see if it will start (Could be My Doucments ) depending on Operating System

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just tried that and unfortunately same result, thanks anyway :)

 

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AngelSlayer20

just tried that and unfortunately same result, thanks anyway :)

 

Deactivate ALL files Except Oblivion and see if it Runs

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just tried with just oblivion and morroblivion and then oblivion esm on its own neither worked, im resigning myself to another re-install (3rd in 2 days :( )

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AngelSlayer20

just tried with just oblivion and morroblivion and then oblivion esm on its own neither worked, im resigning myself to another re-install (3rd in 2 days :( )

When re_Installing Start with Oblivion,ShiveringIsles,Unoffical Oblivion Patch 3.4.3 ALL Morrowind_ob Files with Transport at the Bottom and see if you can Play Before you put Anything Else on

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will do, i thinks its when i activate DarnDarkui after morroblivion but uninstalling it seems to not work so ill do what you suggested and try darndark first and see if it breaks it :)

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AngelSlayer20

will do, i thinks its when i activate DarnDarkui after morroblivion but uninstalling it seems to not work so ill do what you suggested and try darndark first and see if it breaks it :)

Delete ini Before you Start  Game if running run a couple days  The Copy Whole Game in to another Directory  Before you put Anything in  you can allways delete your Oblivion Directory and  Copy it Back in,  I can not get Oblivionxp file to work ither

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just deleted every trace of oblivion from my pc from inis to saves and the entire directoy, and oblivion xp works fine for me worked on morroblivion when its first played before the crash, what issues are you having?

 

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Could not pin it down just got a lot less Crashes when i took it off

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just got it working, it seems that installing darnuidark after morroblivion messes it up for me so i just installed before and now it seems fine thanks for your help :)

 

Edit: Definately the issue tried re-installing the ui after morroblivion and messed up my install

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http://darnified.net/forums/14/darnified_ui_install_explained/

AngelSlayer20

just got it working, it seems that installing darnuidark after morroblivion messes it up for me so i just installed before and now it seems fine thanks for your help :)

 

Edit: Definately the issue tried re-installing the ui after morroblivion and messed up my install

It put the Link Above yours could go here to Check why it is causing a Problem  installing after Morroblivion installation,, I install after Morroblivion cause it overwrites files in Data\Menues

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