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hi strange graphic problem in morroblivion

Submitted by severian1983 on

hi everyone! first congratulations for the beautifull workof morroblivion!!

after many times... finally i've managed to run morroblivion on my mac via cider! also thanks to the help of the kind persons on this forums

but now i have graphics problem.....i use this wrapper to run morroblivion... http://portingteam.com/index.php/files/file/2258-the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion-goty/.. that is differnt from my old wrapper... i change because on the old wrapper i can't run morroblivion...

anyway finally morroblivion start!!! but my joice is only for few second because i see this.... :( somebody have any ideas to solve this problem?.....

before on my old wrapper oblivion run without problem

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severian1983

hi everyone! first congratulations for the beautifull workof morroblivion!!

after many times... finally i've managed to run morroblivion on my mac via cider! also thanks to the help of the kind persons on this forums

but now i have graphics problem.....i use this wrapper to run morroblivion... http://portingteam.com/index.php/files/file/2258-the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion-goty/.. that is differnt from my old wrapper... i change because on the old wrapper i can't run morroblivion...

anyway finally morroblivion start!!! but my joice is only for few second because i see this.... :( somebody have any ideas to solve this problem?..... sorry for my awfull english

before on my old wrapper oblivion run without problem

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In the settings, set texture size to large.
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sorry... texture size?? where i set texture size.....?

 

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ahhh ok texture size.. for me is Qualita' grafica.....   anyway i have changed  in large medium and small ... but the problem persist....

every time i exit the game and restart

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If you take out Morrowind_ob.esm out of your plugin.txt file, does "normal Oblivion" load up fine?

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I was just thinking, how did you put the Morroblivion files into the Data folder? See, on Windows it works just fine and Explorer merges all the folders. However, on Mac, Finder replaces all the folders, which is very bad. So I use a Mac port of 7zip to extract the archive to wherever it needs to go, and 7zip will automatically merge all the files. Again, Finder will not do this, and I haven't really found any other way around this (haven't really looked though either).

See, I had Morroblivion working on my Windows side, and just drag and dropped my whole Oblivion folder into a Cider wrapper on my Mac, which is how I got Morroblivion working on the Mac so easily. But installing Oblivion and Morroblivion just from the Mac, I would imagine would be very difficult. I'm not saying you can't do it; it should work, but you're going to run into a few snags, such as this one.

So bottom line: Finder does not merge folders as far as I know. You have to use a Windows program to merge them for you, such as the Mac port of 7zip. 

Or you have to place the folders and files manually, which will take forever, so that's not even an option for me.

Edit: You can use the "ditto" command to merge folders.

ditto source_folder destination_folder

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very strange indeed.... if i delete morrowind_ob.esm from my plugins.txt.... morroblivion start anyway....

but.... well  is my plugins.txt is worthless??  

maybe for the graphics problem... i must change something in oblivion .ini??

 

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I was just thinking, how did you put the Morroblivion files into the Data folder?   ....... i have expanded with the unarchiver (is a mac programm like winrar o similar) and i must admit i simply drag and drop the files into the oblivion data folder... is that wrong....??   in the instruction i have read :

5) Install the complete installation - EITHER

  • Use Wrye Bash's installers tab to install the files so that you can easily remove them later. You can load the archive (.7z file) directly in Wrye Bash without extracting if you want - just put the .7z file in the "Bash Installers" folder, go to the Installers Tab, right-click Morroblivion and choose "install".
    (recommended, see the FAQ for tips on using Wyre Bash)
    OR
  • Manual install: Extract the files from the .7z archive to your \Oblivion\Data\ directory
    (recommended, as long as you regularly back up your \Oblivion\Data\ directory)

and because wrye bash dont' run on mac.... i have follow the manual install

anyway now i'll try with the 7zip mac port... :)

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aniway whath is the differences betwen replace and Merge......i mean ... i know what is replace..... but merge??

how i can merge files with 7zip??

 

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ahahahaha ok.... understand ;) 

now i want restart all...from beginning .. with calm ...step by step.....

now delete oblivion... and restart from installation....then shivering isle... then obse...then...silent voice....

then morroblivion....

i let you know what's happens  :)

 

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If you take out Morrowind_ob.esm out of your plugin.txt file, does "normal Oblivion" load up fine?

hi i tried to run ONLY oblivion on the nightblazer's wrapper and there is there too the graphical problem.....so i think the graphic problem is not fault of morroblivion....is this wrapper that have some problem with my computer....also(nightblazer's) is the only wrapper whre morroblivion run..... so i've installed correctly morroblivion ... i have to only resolve this graphic problem wit this wrapper.... what do you think? i'm correct? you have no graphical problem with this wrapper....? maybe i need to change something in oblivion.ini or somewhere for change graphic characteristics....??

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Well like I said, when you dropped your Morroblivion Data folder into your Oblivion Data folder, it replaced your Oblivion Data folder with the folder you dragged in there. It would be the same thing if you deleted your Oblivion Data folder and put the Morroblivion Data folder in there. You essentially lost all your vanilla Oblivion data. This probably explains why there is also no Oblivion music, but only Morrowind music.

So unfortunately you need to reinstall Oblivion and Shivering Isles from scratch. Then install Oblivion in the Cider wrapper again and see that it works fine. Then install Morroblivion, but make sure that you don't replace the files. Either use the command I posted earlier (the ditto command), or use the Mac port of 7zip to extract the archive into your Oblivion data folder (so both the Data folders merge and not replace).

If you need clarification on how to extract, let me know.

Edit: So yeah, I believe the wrapper is fine, you just lost all your vanilla Oblivion data, so like you said, you unfortunately need to start over and reinstall everything from scratch.

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If you need clarification on how to extract, let me know.

 yes a clarification can be useful.... maybe i lost some passage thank you

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hi i've reinstalled oblivion from zero  and use te nightblazer?s wrapper but the problem persist

 

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so... here we go i've reinstalled from zero...all the situation is:

in the nightblazer's wrapper morriblivion run ...but with the strange and ugly graphic problem....

in the othere wrapper this (http://portingteam.com/files/file/5928-oblivion-goty-steam-compatible/) oblivion run pretty well....very very well ..fast and without graphic problem.... BUT agaahahahahah  here morroblivion dont'want run.... i start anytime in imperial prison...i have really a bad luck...... someone have any ideas for solve the problem....

or at least knows how can i run MORROBLIVION in this  wrapper ( http://portingteam.com/files/file/5928-oblivion-goty-steam-compatible/) for some strange reason  i have no preferences folder for this wrapper in my library on mac....i mean i have only a folder  called oblivion preferences.... and in this folder there is only 1 file called ranstartup but empty (as you can see in the pictures)....i have alread tried to put the contens of plugins.txt in this file but nothing... if someone know something please help  thank you....

i 've  play a litlle MORROBLIVION in the other wrapper...wow it's fantastic my congratulations for this masterpiece

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For Cluthz wrapper, this is what he said to do to enable mods (DLC, samething). 

Cluthz

To enable DLC, navigate inside the wrapper to:
Contents/resources/config/P-drive/user/local settings/appliaction data/oblivion/
Inside this folder there should be two files:
DLCList.txt
Plugins.txt

So try finding the plugins.txt and editing that to find Morroblivion. Then delete the preferences folder in library.

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nothing to do... :(  for some reason clutz wrapper  can run shivering isle but... is like don't see morroblivion ....

i was thinking ...the grpahical problem in nightblaze wrapper... is because of my computer... i mean maybe my specific are not sufficient?

my macbookpro: 2.3 ghz intel core i5 4 gb ram  intel hd 3000

what do you think?

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You should be able to run Morroblivion, you'll just have to bump all the video settings down. I'm on a Macbook Air, and I can run it, so you should be able to run it better than me :D

Will Cluthz wrapper see any mod? For example, download a small mod (like a new weapon mod or something, something that requires a .esp), install it, edit and save the plugins.txt, delete the preferences folder, and see if the new mod shows up.

We have to know if Cluthz wrapper will recognize any mod first, before we try getting it to recognize Morroblivion.

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now i'll try :) anyway i already run on clutz wrapper shivering isle (that is  a .esp file)

 

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mah...... so strange....i can't run mod....so it seems...

i download a simple mod http://tes.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=41847

copy in data folder... edit plugins.txt and checked in oblivion launcher datafiles 

delete the preferences in library run the game......but nothing.... seem don't work.....

so seems mod can't run in this wrapper.....but why shivering isle run?

so confused

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Uninstall the mod, including the files you put into the Oblivion/Data folder. Does Oblivion still run fine?

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yes.... if i unistall the mod oblivion still run fine

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Hmmm, you might want to go to the website where you got Cluthz wrapper and tell him your problem of not being able to install a simple mod. He's a pretty nice dude and quick at responding. And he knows his wrapper better than anyone. 

So I would ask cluthz why you can't install and can't get any mods work to work.

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mmm... i have already wrote a post on porting team....i'm waiting

so...instead for the nightbalzer's wrapper (where morroblivion run) have any idea...to solve the graphic problem...?

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You can pm him if he hasn't gotten back with you. He's usually pretty fast with his messages, well at least he was with me.

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