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0.6 release issues

Got a problem with the 0.6 release? CTDS? Floating shit? Just weird shit? Post them here! Stop making bloody topics about them, if anyone makes a new topic about them, and I quote "they will be executed with softgun pellets"

Edited by: Mehh on 10/24/2013 - 13:43
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regular CTD's  map issue

regular CTD's 

map issue (clouds covering it all, though the underlying map seems to be correct)

WHen a new game  is started in Morrowind, I cannot do anything (move,  check map, etc)

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The map issues sounds like a

The map issues sounds like a missing LOD

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fail! before you post, think

fail!

before you post, think about how you are going to help us, where do you ctd? if possible what is making you ctd?

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re: map - I had no

re: map - I had no LODSettings folder in Data prior to Skywind installation, but everything was copied to the correct place. If you could exapnd on how I might be "missing [a] LOD" Id love to hear it.

I am getting CTD on the way from Seyda Neen to Balmorra, north of Pelagiad, on the main road. No action was being taken during crashes other than walking, though  it does not occur in the same exact place necessarily.

I was able to walk to Vivec without much  issue.  There was one CTD,  but I  have been unable to recreate it.

All mods have been disabled, though they  were not originally, so those sesem to not be causing it.

 

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Thank you for making this.

Thank you for making this. I've been trying to post some things and to my dismay, the front page topics were all things like people who put the ESM in the meshes folder and have no idea what they did wrong lol.

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Try this for the cloud

Try this for the cloud issue

http://www.mediafire.com/?56pmcb6dbftje4u

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Map/cloud issue fixed, CTD

Map/cloud issue fixed, CTD again at the same location once I tried to continue to balmorra.

I am going to try loading a different save and retrace my steps and also different routes to continue to see why I  am crashing.

Out of curiousity, WHY did that fix my map issue? Had I installed something incorrectly?  Thanks for the help!

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Here's something I want you

Here's something I want you guys to try.  Use the console command "tll"  and compare the stability and number of crashes to before you used it.

I'm having a feeling the crashes might be from the extreme detail of our LOD.

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it's always raining, crashes

it's always raining, crashes to desktop randomly, more prominent around the ashlands and solstheim.

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Did you try my tll

Did you try my tll suggestion?  And Mehh has already found a broken rock mesh which will be fixed very soon and will remove many ctds.

Try waiting, the rain will go away.....  hopefully. :)

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For Eloth, the following

For Eloth, the following rocks seem to cause ctds. I found them via navmesh.

0terrainUrockUrmU08
0terrainUrockUrmU24
0terrainUrockUacU09
0terrainUrockUmaU67

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i still have nearly all

i still have nearly all candles lying on the floor or upside down on tables or shelves, also they have names like 0lightUdeUcandelU16U64

 

posting this bacuse if i remember correctly Mehh stated that this issue should have been solved...?

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After using the console

After using the console command I am still getting crashes.  They do not necessarily seem to be  restricted to location (most recent is a few mins after I  tele to Seyda Neen).

I am missing one texture so far: purple knife in census office, otherwise I seem to have all meshes and textures.

I also noticed something on the map.  It works now, thanks to the file last nigth,  but the clouds on it seem to be "off". Far south of Red Mountain, the clouds form into  the shape of what looks like the same mountain.  Are they supposed to be higher up where the mountain is?  Here is a  screenshot.

argh, that didn't embed  the way I wanted.  Here is a link:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/screenshot66w.png//

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the cloud thing is a engine

the cloud thing is a engine bug , at least I think it is

on all my personal mod it apears

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Ah, dang it, which

Ah, dang it, which knife?

That is the Skyrim cloud overlay, and needs to be fixed.  Can someone find or make a good model/texture devoid of clouds except around the outside?  Then I can make the clouds change ONLY in Morrowind. :)

Alright about the console command.  I had seen some reductions, and I wondered if it could be a problem other people are having.

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The initial knife in the

The initial knife in the census office in Seyda Neen. The one you are supposed to pick up and practice swinging.

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my problem is I can't even

my problem is I can't even open the skywind.esm just keep getting this message and I even opened as admin and tried running in compatibility mode. Read the log and got this Traceback (most recent call last):e

IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'config/contrib/unrar.exe' Traceback (most recent call last):   File "Skywind.py", line 42, in <module>   File "shutil.pyo", line 117, in copy   File "shutil.pyo", line 82, in copyfile  
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Ensgnblack:  Is that a fresh

Ensgnblack:  Is that a fresh installation with the large complete installation file?

Apocalyptis:  Don't extract that to your skyrim directory.  A new folder on your desktop is good enough.  And don't move anything around.  Just open it up and run the exe.  If it still doesn't work post your error log.

Edit:  Okay, good you have a log file, and you've tried running as an administrator?  Weird.

Edit2:  AHHHHHHH Dang it Ironman!!!!!!!! You forgot the weapon textures again. :)

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okay progress has been made I

okay progress has been made I got it to open by just extracting to my desktop. 

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Ensgnblack wrote: WHen a new

Ensgnblack wrote:

WHen a new game  is started in Morrowind, I cannot do anything (move,  check map, etc)

The intro is buggy, but not being able to do anything (at least at first) is on purpose. Have a look here for chargen http://morroblivion.com/forums/skyrim/skywind-mod-releases/3306

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I understand the not being

I understand the not being able to move temporarily is consistent with Morrowind intro, but it did not go  away even after the guard came.

However I reinstalled everything including the update and started  a few games.  Here are some of the changed results:

Started new game, and could move. However I could not access the map, inventory, or magic menu.  I could use the J key for journal, but not the TAB, I, or M keys. 

I could move around though and noticed what I imagine  is a missing mesh or texture, black  areas on houses in Seyda Neen or Pelagiad.

I crashed at about the same location: just north of Pelagiad, on the way to Balmorra, about when I enter the ashland.

I then Started another  game, this time loading a previous save  from Skyrim (so I could get lockpicks). The dagger texture in the initial census office is still missing.

I then turned collision off and started flying towards balmorra (just to speed it up) and crashed at about the same location, though this time I entered it from a different direction.

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Black meshes are a known

Black meshes are a known issue!

You do not gain FULL control of your character until you hit the racemenu from the guy standing on the dock.  However the chargen was more intended as proof of concept and is very buggy, so that menu might not appear.

I addressed the missing textures issue in my second edit above.

We've also addressed the crash problem in multiple threads, including this one. :)  http://morroblivion.com/forums/skyrim/skywind-problems/4259#comment-29430

Please read before posting bugs!!!!!!

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Sorry  about the textures,

Sorry  about the textures,  but posting about crashes happening in more than  one way seemed like giving you new information.

edit: if you are suggesting that console command fix, I reported  that did not work  for  me.

 

In regards to the racemenu: I had not had that NPC  give me that menu before,  but he did this time (you are correct that its buggy :P). Afterwards however I did not gain access to the menus.

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Yeah, and sorry I'm in a bad

Yeah, and sorry I'm in a bad mood. I just found out the download is also missing fixed door meshes with animation, new door textures, and all of our extremely nice books, along with ALL of the weapon textures.... :)

We're going to need a very big update......

 

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As you can tell by my problem

As you can tell by my problem descriptions, I could not be more ignorant of the work that goes into all this.  So thanks for answering my questions.

I thank  everyone involved for undertaking this project and am already amazed at the progress.

 

Is there a thread or could we perhaps put it one the first post of this one known issues? ie mixxing textures on houses? 

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1) if you walk with an

1) if you walk with an existing character towards the guard at the starting ship in seyda neen the racemenu comes up - that should only happen if you started a new game i guess?

2) also on that imperial prisoner ship, when it´s moved by the waves, all the barrels, crates, doors on it don´t move synchronously...

3) NPCs stand on hammock when they wake up

4) Alit Hide is missing its texture (purple mesh) - there are also a lot of "invisible" textures, e.g. for chitin stuff or many ingredients - but i think those are known and just not done yet?

5) i don´t know if that´s an issue which will be adressed, but with an enb on the rain in Morrowind is just black.

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@sauhan77 1/ good point. I

@sauhan77

1/ good point. I need to fix that.

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sauhan77 wrote: i still have

sauhan77 wrote:

i still have nearly all candles lying on the floor or upside down on tables or shelves, also they have names like 0lightUdeUcandelU16U64

 

posting this bacuse if i remember correctly Mehh stated that this issue should have been solved...?


Yeah, the candle fix wasn't added to the installer for some reason. I posted the fix, but might've forgotten a candle, or might've missed it when fixing them.

http://www.mediafire.com/?m7zop75wdy6wft1
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Sorry! Shadow! are they the

Sorry! Shadow! are they the ones that are not in the morrowind folder.?

If so I have the other Weapons folder that was in the 0.5 release and can add that to another update,but it was not inside the morrowind folder,so I wrongly thought that it was not needed.?

 

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Shadow wrote: Did you try my

Shadow wrote:

Did you try my tll suggestion?  And Mehh has already found a broken rock mesh which will be fixed very soon and will remove many ctds.

Try waiting, the rain will go away.....  hopefully. :)



Is the method of tracing the ,,broken" meshes known?

 

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sauhan77 wrote:1) if you

sauhan77 wrote:

1) if you walk with an existing character towards the guard at the starting ship in seyda neen the racemenu comes up - that should only happen if you started a new game i guess?

2) also on that imperial prisoner ship, when it´s moved by the waves, all the barrels, crates, doors on it don´t move synchronously...

3) NPCs stand on hammock when they wake up

4) Alit Hide is missing its texture (purple mesh) - there are also a lot of "invisible" textures, e.g. for chitin stuff or many ingredients - but i think those are known and just not done yet?

5) i don´t know if that´s an issue which will be adressed, but with an enb on the rain in Morrowind is just black.


2. The ship is going to be re-made, so no point in fixing it, but yeah, we know about it.

3. I have to re-fix the beds.

5. no idea about enbs, I think Eloth is working on a Morrowind enb, which should fix the fog moving with you in Seyda Neen. Without an enb, the fog is an engine limitation.
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To the people who are ctding

To the people who are ctding near Balmora and such, try these replacement rocks made by Eloth and see if they help with the ctds.

http://www.mediafire.com/?3s4b93liw90g31w

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Still some ctds mainly in the

Still some ctds mainly in the ashlands. Also looks like the game treats ashstorms as a "rain" weather, because Wet and cold puts water dripping effect on a character and Natural skyrim rain adds rain effects to the ashstorm. Maybe it's related to ctds but just guessing here.

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Warp to 0, -2, turn around

Warp to 0, -2, turn around and jump to closest rock to you, and tell me if you crash.

http://i.imgur.com/DX56D10.jpg
 

LASentry wrote:

it's always raining, crashes to desktop randomly, more prominent around the ashlands and solstheim.


Just noticed the other part of your post about Solstheim. Don't go there and not expect to crash, we haven't even touched there. As for the raining, it seems the merge somehow messed up Eloth's weather, no idea why. The weather is what actually delayed the 0.6 release.

 

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hmm that's weird. but as you

hmm that's weird. but as you said weird things happen in big releases :)

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Yeah, it seems that the

Yeah, it seems that the weather percents got screwed up in the merge, but that's simple to fix compared to sound effects not playing and pixelated ash storms.

http://www.mediafire.com/?t8jujsr96hti518
This should also fix the last remaining rock, and lessen the ctds around the Ashlands.

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Yep, had ctd on that rock on

Yep, had ctd on that rock on 0,-2 and the fix solved it :)

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New here, fresh 0.6 install

Hey I just downloaded Skywind after playing dragonborn and missing Morrowind even more, so from everything i've read so far i have installed it correctly, was CTDing trying to leave seya nede and the rock fix helped, no more CTD's.

  Oddly i thought it would have been easy to find an answer for this, but is everyone supposed to be naked? I followed the instruction's posted to a tee, and have triple checked everything, does 0.6 have cloths/armor for everyone? they have weapons, just no cloths. Otherwise i haven't had many problems TBH, amazing work- i feel like i'm 15 again rediscovering Morrowind.

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Oddly i thought it would have

Oddly i thought it would have been easy to find an answer for this, but is everyone supposed to be naked?

You must have installed some pervy mod that removes clothing...we are civilized enough to put lion cloths on. Skywind is current on spring break and so everybody is showing off their bodies. The winter addition will hopefully have some more clothes on people.

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^ lol As for your ctds,

^ lol

As for your ctds, well some of the rocks are ctding people, but I posted some rock fixes above, which should lessen your ctds by a lot. Skywind's exterior is actually really stable, and only crashes around a few places. The interiors are actually a lot more stable now too.

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HAHAHA, pervy. UNP, thats it.

HAHAHA, pervy. UNP, thats it. Yes i do play female characters, yes i have UNP 1.) for most of the armors on nexus, 2.) It just plain looks better anyways, 3.) No i don't oogle at characters naked and jack to em, theres pr0n for that.

And Mehh, I was stating that i alrdy installed the rock fixes and it worked nicely, I did just CTD by the High fane though.

I am also missing weapon textures, are those supposed to be in yet or no? A dremora actually had daedric armor on, and a non textured dwarven warhammer, i'm very curious to see the things with textures they look awesome!

 

 

 

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The weapons are Shadow's

The weapons are Shadow's field, and for some reason, in every release it somehow gets forgotten. The textures aren't in the same directory as the rest of the stuff I think.

As for the ctds in Vivec, yeah, a few others ctded there too. I think it has to do with broken waterfalls.

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Thanks for replies

hey thanks for the quick relies man, this is really kool, i've just been walkign around on my level 84 character just 'sploring. I am amazed how solid the mod is, I have over 150 mods loaded right now and not really any noticable problems. Except for Frostfall actually, it keeps sayign Im freezing everywhere, land isnt supported obviously, I can just turn it off in MCM so no biggie.

suprisingly bigger mods like Skyre and CoT seem to not interfere at all, i figured as much since it's a whole new map. But, really UNP is the reason no one is wearing cloths? I'm very suprised by that. It shouldn't do anything but replace the body shape. I have nothing else affecting NPC bodies/clothing

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Hehe was just teasing Phuse,

Hehe was just teasing Phuse, we haven't actually made any Morrowind clothes for Skywind yet so are waiting for the clever people round these parts to start making some. It will be a cold winter in Vvardenfell I think.

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happychappy wrote: Hehe was

happychappy wrote:

Hehe was just teasing Phuse, we haven't actually made any Morrowind clothes for Skywind yet so are waiting for the clever people round these parts to start making some. It will be a cold winter in Vvardenfell I think.

Got me good, that you did. Lol, didn't expect that one. Yeah apparently it must be frigid, my frostfall is going nuts in Balmora! pretty sure im on a volcanic island, but it can't be wrong! It's bone chillingly Freezing apparently.

 Were you guy's planning on making the armor look like it did in Morrowind? I could tell that was the plan with the weapons, even without a texture i immediately recognized this dremora was wielding a daedric daikatana, omg i used the shit out of that thing in the real game lol.

I think Morrowind had amazing armor/weapon designs and concept art, I was very sad they decided to go super realism on Oblivion, morrowind is the top on fantasy design  concepts in this series, that goes without saying.

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Just wanted to check--anyone

Just wanted to check--anyone else getting a consistent CTD when trying to enter Crassius Curio's manor in Hlaalu Canton (Vivec)?

 

[Edit]

Spoke too soon. On my fourth try, I was able to enter the manor without a crash.

 

[Edit 2]

So, while I do crash every 10 minutes or so (that is to be expected, right?), Curio Manor is especially bad. It CTDs about 2 times out of 3 during the loading screen.

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Some interiors still ctd. For

Some interiors still ctd. For example the Hlaalu manor in Balmora, if you go to the 3rd floor, you'll ctd.

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Mehh wrote: Some interiors

Mehh wrote:

Some interiors still ctd. For example the Hlaalu manor in Balmora, if you go to the 3rd floor, you'll ctd.

Yeah, figured it was something like that. Aside from the frequent ctd-ing, I don't have anything to report beyond what's already been said.
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yaaaa i dont remember

yaaaa i dont remember crashing once with the old master its weird that i am crashing now :(  so far its only done it going in and out of caius's house for me, and im asuming im missing the rock fix thing because i still have no collision on the big rock leading up to the silt strider in seyda neen (sorry dont know real in game position)

edit: argg everytime i load a game i end up in the inn with that blades chick in skyrim, no matter what i load a quik save an actual save, if i was in morrowind it just puts me back in that skyrim inn, when i cow commanded back and tried to talk to caius his voice was gone and and so were his mission dialogue options, but he did have some options from the chargen lol, is anyone elses this messed up or did i screw something up somewhere?

how the crap am i supposed to make a video of mq02 if i cant start it! ahh well maybe ill try the fighters guild see how my luck goes there

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did you start the game

did you start the game through the chargen or directly from COC-ing in the main menu?

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