Morroblivion

Not to forget Dragomirs concept for glass armor

do the helmet as you see in dragomirs concept, its awesome.

maybe you could show us what you have in mind? I personally think that the concept helmet looks awesome but maybe u have something in mind that looks even better :)

i think this is the solution :

someone makes one helmet like dragomir concept for those who like it and another helmet different for those who don't

i know its extra work but i think discussing which concept is better might not lead anywhere and this way everyone is happy (but Kurasaki model in the end might please everyone so, wait for it... and if not make a helmet like dragomir's concept)

I really like the glass helmet in the concept. But the thing is is that we could do two pieces. Because it would make sense that there would be two pieces. One for the Ashlanders and the other the for the imperials or something like that.

Kurasaki wrote:

and I did not like , and many others too

Who actually? I think the mask was the coolest part of the whole design, and many others seemed to agree :P I'm afraid a different helmet might not work with the rest of the armor (which is very Dunmer in looks), but we'll see.

All in all, I think it should be down to the devs, would be a shame to not have that glass mask in game though.

And about a different glass version - I was already designing one. This would be the glass armor, expensive stuff for the rich (buoyant armigers etc). I had another concept in progress which is a raw glass armor - something much like an ashlander netch armor, but with raw glass pieces sawn onto it.

Dragomir wrote:

Kurasaki wrote:

and I did not like , and many others too

 

Who actually? I think the mask was the coolest part of the whole design, and many others seemed to agree :P I'm afraid a different helmet might not work with the rest of the armor (which is very Dunmer in looks), but we'll see.

All in all, I think it should be down to the devs, would be a shame to not have that glass mask in game though.

And about a different glass version - I was already designing one. This would be the glass armor, expensive stuff for the rich (buoyant armigers etc). I had another concept in progress which is a raw glass armor - something much like an ashlander netch armor, but with raw glass pieces sawn onto it.

That sounds pretty cool. I think that's a good idea :)

Yeah, definitely do multiple versions of the Glass armor if possible. Then it's up to the play what pieces they wanna use ingame.

They both look amazing, there could be open faced and full helm variants to use them both, considering there are a lot of Bonemold variants already, and we are doing the same with Dwemer armor.

I also prefer dragomir's design because I think it has a look more native to the dunmers, yours looks more altmerish to me. Both helmets looks great so we could do as iceflame542 suggests and have variants of the glass helmets which would actually be very cool imho. 

Сделай оба. Второй вариант всегда можно добавить или как разновидность, или как артефакт например. Лично мне твоя модель нравится больше :)

Yeah, since you've done both I see no problem with having a glass mask AND a glass helmet.

greg079 wrote:

i want you all to know that this is how u kill an artist. let kurasaki finish the helmet before telling him he shouldn't use it.

Thing is much more complicated than that. We are making a very big project, with a really big world to fill in. Thing is, items must not only look good, but they must fit the rest.
You see - consistency in design is essential to properly portray - in this particular example - Dunmer culture.

All of my designs are really thought throught very thoroughly, and making things too different from them makes my hard work (harder than you imagine) redundant. I'm not overly sensitive though, and the last word should probably always belong to the devs.

If every modeller would do what he (or she perhaps) finds good looking, we might end up with armors that look good outside of the game, but don't seem to belong in it's world. That is why graphic design is important, not only to give modellers ideas, but also to keep everything consistent in it's looks.

But in the end, I'm always all for diversity, so having both designs doesn't bother me at all.

I'm for making Kurasaki's variant a unique helmet on a high elf or something. 

Dragomir's looks more native to Morrowind so that would make sense being the common variant. Both look great though!

@dragomir, i understand need for consistency, and i also can understand that offering suggestions and concept art can be helpful, i'm only pointing out that people shouldn't try to devalue the work of others, merely show them how, or what to improve.

i find myself agreeing with the use of both.

I think thats the closed helmet looks amazing! but it seems that you are going to use both so thats good news for both parties :p

I can make glass environment map when I get new computer, should be here today or on Monday.

nice progress kura :)

Thanks Kurasaki!

Спасибо Курасаки!