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donAllister, your esp is merged and will be available in 0.8.2

yeah, if you want, clean up the suran navmesh :)

screenshot ?

oh right. I think I pointed out this earlier. Either find a placement solution or remove it (in latter case, just drop me a note about this when you post your esp ;) )

oki.

cool. It will be merged in the next version.

I'm curious if you know how Solstheim is going to be handled, being that Dragonborn has Solstheim. Are there going to be two Solstheims?

thanks for the esp. Will be merged in the next version.

For Solstheim, yes there will be two versions. If you only play Skywind there will be no issue. If you travel between skyrim and morrowind, you will have to use your imagination to make it work :)

Technically, there will be no conflict.

OK, then I will grab some more spots on the list. Can finalize, no problem.

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While finalizing it appears I missed a spot, will re-upload when it's done. Will finalize them too.

If it's the same link, it's ok for me. I just noted it down in the merge tracker ;) thanks

Unfortunately that’s not the case! Most interior cells that have been merged already will need to be redone again. Apparently not everyone did a good job. Bad NAVMesh work can cause CTD, prevent NPC from moving and bring active quest lines to a stop.

At the moment I am already redoing all Aldruhn-interiors to support finished quest lines.

When the list with interiors is 100% completed we start over and redo all interiors that need to be fixed.

Do you think Ironman12345 would mind if I grab Ebonheart?

I think Ironman12345 will be happy if we fix up what he started, that was the plan at least. In the beginning we where thinking it was better to have bugged NAVMesh then NO-NAVMesh at all.

He started making NAVMesh at a time we had allot of bad meshes around (meshes with corrupt collision). That caused a massive amount of CTD when auto-rendering NAVMesh and that resulted in allot of bad NAVMesh shapes. He did put a massive amount of effort into it, so we credit him for his work.

OK, Eb-En including Ebonheart exterior.
www.artforthemasses.us/Skywind/Eb-En.esp

 

I also moved a torch in six fishes, it was floating in mid air.

I have redone all (59) Aldruhn Interiors.

Hi,

here is the skaal interior navmesh. I have tested it in-game with a flame atronarch and in the ck with the path-testing tool using a human npc, seems to work

Everything up to this point has been merged. Congrats !

masterofdisaster wrote:

Hey! I am CK noob but I want to help you at least a little so I did "SethanAncestralTomb" navmesh. It would be great if someone experienced check it. I did a in-game test and skeletons inside were attacking and moving without problems. If its good enough I will do some more.

By the way "SetusEggMine" crashes each time I try to load it in CK.

 

Looks good for a 1st try. Better than mine I have to say.

I did a little test and the mobs do get caught by the furniture and walls sometimes. If you look at the 1st Screenshot you will see where you have the nav mesh going through the seat on the floor and it is also really close to walls as well. In the second you will see where I changed it to go around the furniture and moved it back from the walls a bit. That will correct the issue with them getting stuck and make them move more fluid through the tomb. Never put a the nav mesh closer than about a foot from a stationary object, including walls and columns. 

Now, also there is something you can do with the nav mesh that will cut down the processing that the mobs and NPC's will need to navigate with the nav mesh. It is called "Preferred Pathing". Using it will reduce the NPC's AI processes by 50% and make the game run a lot smoother, and they will move more freely through the tomb. 

To use it is very easy. You Select the Poly's that you want the NPC to use most and that are a more of a direct path that have zero obstructions. And would be the more used parts of the tomb. And the just press the "P" key. This will change the color of the nav mesh Poly's you have selected to Orange. Now you have not only corrected the nav mesh, but you have optimized it for better and smoother gameplay. 

 

Your nav mesh was really good. It just needed some tweaking that is all. Do not give up. Keep posting your progress. And never let criticism effect your disposition toward your work. 

masterofdisaster wrote:

I am not sure is it legit to move objects in order to let NPCs get to player so I made two versions:

1. NAVMesh only, nothing changed it place so there are few blindspots. I really couldnt fix them.

2. NAVMesh + I moved few objects a little so NPCs dont get lost.

Good Job that is more like it. A Couple of blind spots do not matter. It helps with a thief or when you are sneaking. Also, moving objects is ok as long as it A: does not break Lore, and B: improves the game. 

And the NPC's will chase you off of the Nav mesh when in battle, that is why I told you do not worry about being so close to walls. Plus they have a 2 to 3 meter range with melee weapons so they will still get you. 

And to say last. Awesome Job. I think we can use this. I will leave that up to the Nav mesh God here though... 

 

Serano Ancestral Tomb NAVMesh is done. Works good in-game but NPCs are bugged.

EDIT: Seran Ancestral Tomb done.

EDIT2: Senim Ancestral Tomb is done. I also started working on Sennanit but it is pain in the ass to navmesh

I hope my work is good enough.

donAllister wrote:

Love the new look, BTW, so much more colorful. Kudos to the person who did the layout, minus a few things. Does anyone mind if change out the overhanging tarp in front of the Slave Market? It doesn't fit right.

That was all me, and thanks.

Were you talking about the half-circle one on the balcony that was already fixed by the time this was merged, or the highlighted gap in this screen? If the former, that's because the mesh was changed for that particular overhang, as were many ground textures, which was why there was grass sticking out all over the place where it shouldn't have been. That and a couple of those overhangs sticking into walls.

I haven't been able to download Skywind yet (it fails for some reason past midway) but hopefully it will be downloaded by tomorrow.

In the meantime I've tried to practice some navmeshing with easy environments (first time using the CK).

I deleted the old mesh and made a new one by hand. It would be nice to know which one is better and why. Also, if mine has any major flaws etc. I'm not really sure if it is preferable to make the mesh as simple as possible or is it better to have more smaller triangles rather than big ones.

(Didn't know one could disable the markers easily with "M" so sorry about the messy image)