Morroblivion

Right, I started these today and tried out some more ideas which I hope look good.

Here is a shot of the first bridge.

very good ! no complains. :)

These looks really good :)

i like your work very much, its crafted very well..i have  one suggestion in mind. can you add a nail head texture or woodnail for the woodplanks? for now they just lay there without some fixing. just a nailhead or wood nailhead. i send you an image. maybe you like my idea. thumps up :)

yes i though of a texture too. ah i think i got your idea! very smart. you want to make a plane quad with 4 sides and add a tiny alpha nail texture from above and then just sick,glue it on the 3d model. right? cool, if thats not too work intensive and ravanna or the other 3D dudes like that too, it actually would be very nice, in my opinion. what do you think? is it worth the effort? to be honest, i very much wanted to make the bridges for myself but iam ocupied with an armor. iam very happy that you do them so nice. all the little details, cracks, sizes, bends and ropes n stuff is just like i wanted them. so if the nail thing is kinda shit in any way, that would be no problem if you dont do it. even now the bridges are just right.

ah one idea for adding the nails easy. i guess you have tileable texures for the wood.thats the reason you cant just add nails one time and then using the texture. but what if you spread out a few nailheads on the tileable texture like in the picture i send you? this way we dont have the nail head just on the right spot but maybe its beleveable enough? i mean, there will be nailhead all over the wood then i guess and go through as used plank from a ship or old house . as if the people didnt remove every nail. iam curios if thats working.

Ahh Nice, that sounds pretty much want I was planning to do! :)

Apologies for not having more done for now, I got a short contract I needed to see to and think I have it all wrapped up now and can get back to the modelling soon!

Edit: just gone around adding nails to the current models. The models for nails are going on easy enough, not quite as easy as I first thought though.

Generally I am going around making planes the size of a nail all over the models by hand, then convert it to a spline that IU can then Shapemerge with a clone of the wood planks. This then gives me the nails correctly conforming to the slopes and heights of the planks automatically. I can them UVW map it to per face and save that and apply my nail texture.

My Nail texture is pretty rubbish however and I was hoping someone could make a better 64x64 diffuse, opacity and normal map for an in-bedding nail. Possibly with a specular map that will add a slight highlight around the nail that makes the wood look like it raised around the nail so it looks more real?

NAIL TEXTURE TEST 1

Edit:- and a youtube video of current progress.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0qsplizf8I&feature=youtu.be

Right All done except for the really long bridge, "\Data\meshes\morrowind\architecture\misc\bridges\misc_ropebridge2048_01.nif"

Will get it done tomorrow, just wanted to get the current work uploaded before I get eye strain!

i would suggest to make the nailheads more dark so they blend in more with the dark wood. otherwise great work. is it easy to apply the nailheads or do you have to place them one by one by hand?

I understand that choice was made for a more rickety appearance but the board like tht doesn't make sense.  The juryrigged boards would also only hold together with screws which likely don't exist. The way they are situated the boards would fall apart in months or less with the swaying of the bridge and weather alone.

if you google suspension bridges there are some good images that may help you in making some adjustments.  I think this is important because these assets you are making here are very commonly used in morrowind so making them even better would be worth the effort IMO. My suggestion would be to try varying the width and length of the ends of the boards as well as the angle of the cuts.  Also, notching some of the boards like they are scrap end pieces could increase ricket level and provide a similar look without compromising practicality.

I also agree about the color of the nail heads. Nails in morrowind would be hand forged from iron which is a labor intensive process which would make them relatively expensive.  They should be darker than the wood but lighter than the above pic, maybe with lighter corners or sides on nailhead where they were struck.  Vary the size and shape of the nailheads.   Since they are not machined they shouldn't be uniform or perfectly round.  Also there are too many nails in some boards for several reasons. Nails of that size would split the wood when placed so close together. Nails are valuable so they should be used sparingly. Using more nails than required slows repairs and construction and these walkways look roughly constructed.  Two nails should be used at max per side, especially for a boardwalk that is so poorly maintained.

Last, Some of the models may be a bit too unique looking to the extent that every time the player walks across them they will remember specific misplaced boards which is one advantage of have fairly vanilla models.  If possible, it'd be great to have an alternate version for some of the particularly eccentric boardwalks that are a bit more bland and less identifiable.

Sasquatch keep in mind that you are not a contributor to this project.