[WIP] Crafting 3d models by scumpunx

Not sure if this (aetherium as main material) good idea - but i think it will be better to use this rare subs as element of construction (and not in every item of set - it should have some function) or even as thin layer on glass. Pls imagine (and give this imagination to players) aetherium as some real-word plutonium - very rare and too much valuable to making solid constructions from it. Just graduation of better material and quality of work isnt interesting and plausible as graduation of complexity.
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be good to make set dwemer-styled (1g of aetherium and all other from dwemer metal and glass). Will be nice to use some existing dwemer stuff (tubes, coherer) as parts of it.
 

alysander

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Heh. Yeah, this napkin of my is shitty.
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If only i can make plug-ins for ZBrush. Symmetry features is really underestimated in all sculpting soft.

That is complex: from what material is it (i presume metal)? what function do this have (smelter?).
If this is metallic opened smith/smelter - that should be really ineffective - it will be like big warm radiator.

No offense: It's nice designed as always, but implausible.
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Material look like metal for me, not sure if this possible to polish such big stone to light-enough layer for upper part of it.
May be you could make upper part from metal covered fumes (wooden logs and fire you know...).
May be ceramic material (like on Balmora buildings) is better idea for lower part of it.
 

Even though it look like stone to me for the sake of argument even if it wasn't stone the forge would be completely plausible. Forges are made from many different materials that range from metal, clay, stone, ceramic, or a combination of these different materials. Knowing this its not that hard to say that scumps forge could be made from a variety of different materials that would give its appearance.

sorry but (furnace with wooden elements and massive polished stone element on it) looks implausible for me still.
i can recommend ceramic (or more obvious stone) basement, metallic stands and upper.

The forge needs air. I recommend this be modified or redesigned.  Also, in their current position, the wooden supports dont seem very practical or easily replaceable.  What are the handles doing? or is that to hang tools (if so they are too low).  Consider the function of every detail.

Do you people have anything better to do than sit around and nit-pick every 3D model that is posted? 

And before you get up in arms and start talking about how critique is good and useful, just know these people are doing this for free and don't want every part of their work criticized about the smallest of details. It's annoying and unhelpful. Please find something productive to do or get out of the way and let the devs do their work. 

Edit: Amazing model by the way. Continue to do what you do best! No criticisms here. Thank you for the work you are doing!

Hmmm... It's a hard one. I do agree with Squally that some critique is more annoying than helpful, and the forge, except for wooden beams which would instantly on fire looks perfectly fine (yes, forging is one of my many hobbies).

I must say though, I did like the Dunmer forges from Morrowind, made out of clay, smooth and curvy.

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Would they be hard to make? I'd assume we could use a few different types for variations, especially among different cultures.

Don't touch Imperial, Dwemer or Daedric forges yet, though...  [External image]

Dragomir:

Those Morrowind forges are being used as well, but as kilns, so the smooth and curvy clay design is in as well, as seen here:

http://tesrenewal.com/comment/55934#comment-55934

Before you critique my critique, before you say something stupid, how much time have you spent blacksmithing exactly?  Have you checked images of forges or taken time to understand how they work?  Yes, the modeling and textures look good.  Noone is questioning scumpunx's skill.

As I was saying, a bellows could be added to the side, but it is not pictured as is.  The supports are impractical.  The opening is too large for intended purposes (would be more efficient with a 2/3 backing).  The forge can and should be improved.

Great model, and just ignore every reply not coming from team leaders. This site is notoriously full of people knowing how to do things the "right" way. I'd rather see this project finished asap.

@scumpunx: You posted nice photo-refence. It's completely equal to my propose: ceramic basement, iron stands and roof.

> ...using ceramic i would have a feeling it would crack from heat
= there is bricks on your reference. Bricks = ceramic.

I have not only checked images Sasquatch, I have worked in faithful reconstructions of medieval forges from different periods.

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Yes, it has bellows, and bellows are very important, but I assumed they'd be added later. They're pretty much necessary since Skyrim forges have them and animation wouldn't play right, so it was obvious for me. As you can see in the photo that 11th Century forge has no overhang except for deer skin (the fur catches sparks so that the thatch roof doesn't catch fire), and yet you're perfectly capable of forging a big knife, a helmet, or even a sword in it.

And you people keep forgetting that the key to constructive critique is offering solutions and ideas, not just saying "this and that is wrong", because that way you really hold the project and asset production back. As I said, replace the wood, perhaps think of slightly different materials, add bellows and we're fine. Lectures on how things work are of no use this late in production.

Awesome!

I like it.  Can't wait to see how the others turn out.

Looks awesome, can't wait to see it in game.

You should try working on some of the originals to scumpunx because some of the originals could look really cool. But Amazing work so far keep it up. :)

Looks good! Also note there is a vanilla furnace hood and .furn bellows for redesign in the firepit thread.

Hmm i still think there could be more variation on the alchemy set I'm sorry to say man. I know you put a lot of work into them :( .

Personally I know my ranger will love to use these sets to create some nasty poisons for his arrows. I'm especially fond of the glass set. 

On the topic of variety - I think four types are great, however there aren't many differences in the set outside the P&M. Glass standing as the exception, there are few differences between the first three retort or alembelic. Maybe changing their shape subtly could go a long way to make them feel more different and authentic than a simple upgrade. 

Hope this helps! You're doing terrific work! 

Some people likes complex_structures (and as consequence - transparent objects with visible structure).
Will be nice to see more of alchemy set with glass. Transparent material can be really necessary for some work in alchemy (to control condition of substances in it).
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I can recommend to make higher pieces of alchemical set (except mortar/pestle) from glass - you have green glass items, so you can make another one from refined glass (with some visible structure inside).

 

The Telvanni crafting table... yes! *drool*

Baneling-like fungus is awesome. Maybe you could try full-organic variant of table.
Or crossover with table from lowest pic (round colored surface).

Are these enchanting tables? They looks amazing in any case. :)

Gorgeous, great job on these. :)

Will they glow?

I think Iceflame542 knows how to make the new enchanting table work. He made some new models for tanning racks work in game.

Really well done scump! this set of enchanting tables will make a huge diff in the game!

im loving the custom tables here, my good man

If this table made from stones - it would be more good-looking with wider basis.
Construction in center of table is not looking stable.