Imperial Legion problems

I play Moroblivion v. 063. When doing Imperial Legion quests, I have encountered a few bugs.

Suryn Athones' Slanders: any mention about "Slanders" makes him and surrounding Ordinators attack the hero, +40 bounty. Killing Suryn: 1000 bounty, +1 Infame. Workaround: make sure there are no other Ordinators nearby, lock all dors using Fenrick's spell, mention Slanders, kill Suryn, use console to clear bounty and Infamy. Bounty and Infamy are given even when killing under 100% Chameleon!

Saprius Entius: when you talk with him, he says to look around. Two Ordinators appear (as expected) but they are non-hostile (strange!). Saprius will not do anything until they are alive. I was not willing to get 2000 bounty and +2 Infamy, so I locked all nearby doors (to prevent any other Ordinators from coming, anyone from leaving or Saprius from going to some hidden cell) and summoned (via console, PlaceatMe) a Xivilai. Two Xivilais were enough to get rid of Ordinators and Saprius is marked essential :)

After Grandmaster duel, the hero is proclaimed the Knight of the Imperial Dragon but also is expelled from the Legion. This is probably the same bug (associated with the new guild expelling mechanism?) as with duel with Trebonius and appriopriate fights in Warriors Guild, described by me in some other thread.

Thank you for the reports, I

Thank you for the reports, I will take a look at these quests.

It is a little strange that you get the bounty even when NPC attacks you first. Do you have other mods installed besided Morroblivion?

Full list of loaded files:

Oblivion.esm

Morrowind_ob.esm

Fundament.esm

DLC ESP's - from Horse Armor to Sh. Isles

Knight.esp

Bundlement.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

nGCD.esp (not Galsiah's Character Development)

nGCD Skeleton Key.esp

nGCD Oghma Infimum.esp

!Oblivion_PL.esp (Polish version of the game)

Morrowind_ob*.esp - Tree Replacer, Maps, Conversation, UCWUS and the Morrowint_ob.esp.

That's how the Guard/Faction

That's how the Guard/Faction system works in Oblivion. Go up to any vanilla guard and make him attack you through the console with StartCombat Player. You'll instantly get a bounty and other guards will fight you too.

I had the same problems in v.

I had the same problems in v. 0.64 but I have managed to do these quests without console and with reputation amost intact.

Slanders: when under 100% Chameleon I tried reverse steal with some permanent bound items enchanted to do elemental damage, but Suryn Athones has all slots occupied. I have made a custom spell (Frenzy to max level on target for 60 s, Illusion 50+) and cast it on the Ordinator. There was no effect until I looked into his inventory again - he attacked some other Ordinators, the other ones turned against him and done the job for me. After that I had to pay 25g bounty.

Saprius Entius: again the Ordinators were not hostile. I cast Frenzy on one of them, he attacked the other one. I had to cast Frenzy again and (still under Chameleon) summoned a Golden Saint. Ordinator attacked her and got killed, I think I had no bounty.

I suggest that:

- when the quest about Slanders starts, Suryn Athones should be not treated as a guard (clear some flag?)

- these two Ordinators should be hostile and they should not be treated as guards.

Confirming the same things as

Confirming the same things as in the OP, although these issues, especially the second, can be worked around by the player in-game. Still rather unelegant, though.