Morroblivion Weapon Mesh Project: Download and Discussion

You were a big help with that list and I thank you for that very much. It would have taken a lot longer without it. I use a mod I created for Oblivion a long time ago that adds a custom class to the character generation process called Swordsman. This mod works with Morroblivion and I always play Swordsman. I created 5 custom classes with that mod basing their major skills on how I like to play the game and I started each playable race with 50 in each stat for both male and female characters. I've got mods out there for Skyrim that a lot of people are using. Been modding for a pretty long time but still consider myself a novice. I have the tool to manipulate Nif files but actually creating a Nif is above my knowledge and I have no desire to take my skill that far. I just don't have time for it. It can litterally take a modder a month or so to mold out a Cuirass perfectly on a body model. My mods are different. Got one that reduces the size of every texture in Skyrim by half. This allows a player to set their game settings higher and still get great performance out of their PC. I used an automated DDS file optimizer program to do the work on that one. Well anyways that is just a little information. Yes, the mod is ready. I think I got them all. If you find one in your travels that isn't right just post it here and if can fix it I will. Thanks again for all your help. :D

That could be a problem. I don't know how to move the collisions in 3DS Max. I tried it by having 3DS Max load the collisions but when I exported the Nif the collisions grew enormously in size. Go figure. Then I found some information on how to move a Nif in NifSkope and I tried that. I move a Nif up 2 units in NifSkope and everything move and I thought man this is going to be really easy. I saved the Nif and went in the game and tested it and bam I got a sword clipping around the hand. I don't think the old Nifs of Morroblivion are completely compatible with the newest version of NifSkope but I could always be wrong about that. Anyways using Max as a middle man I was able to get good working Nifs. Let me know if you have any ideas on how to solve this. I don't know but 3DS Max 2012 is the last version of Max that will work with Nifs and Blender won't do it at all unless you have a very old version and Blender is to complicated for me. Tried it. Didn't like it. Anyways this mod may be as good as it can get with my limited knowledge and tools I have to use but thank you for pointing out a potential problem. I appreciate that.

EDIT: Ok I just tried importing a Nif and the collisions in 3DS Max. Everything imports just fine but when I move the whole thing up 2 units the collisions move way down the Y Axis a bunch of units while the weapon itself does what it is supposed to do. I have not idea why this happens. Its not logical but that was the result I got. Anyways moving collisions to their correct place may be beyond my knowledge.

EDIT: Ok I figured out how to move the collisions in Max and was able to make a successful Daedric Claymore Nif file with everything in its right place. I get in game and it looks good. I drop the Claymore on the ground and well lets just say not good. It bounced off the ground about 50ft. in the air and landed several paces to my right. So I am like Ok that doesn't work. I put the Nif from this mod back and went into the game and dropped the item and it simply fell to the ground right in front of me. I used the Z button to move it around. No clipping as far as I could see. So I think I am going to leave well enough alone but I did learn how to move the collisions in Max to their correct spot. It just doesn't work.

Brainslasher, thanks so much for this explanation. I will definitely give this solution a try and if it works out I will post a new version of the mod. This is what I needed a detailed explanation and solution. You are the best and I am always willing to learn new stuff to make my mods better and doing this in NifSkope is by far the easiest way. I just needed to know how to do it because moving the entire NiNode up 2 units doesn't work. I've created a character a vendor who works in Cyrodiil that sells all the Morroblivion weapons and armors so this would be a good time to try this out as I am in Cyrodiil right now. I can make the changes and simply buy the item from this character and test it instead of having to type in console commands. Cool deal and thanks again.

Cool and I just made the Daedric Claymore following the instructions you made and it works and it is better than using Max as the middle man. With the Daedric Claymore a small point of the tip of the crossbar still clipped into my character's hands when I was wearing a gauntlets. Making the Nif this way got that little point out of my gauntlet. I moved each node up by 2 individually then I move each collision up by 0.25 and that is where the tricky part comes in. The orginals had numbers up to 4 decimal places so I had to whip out my calculator for that but that is what calculators are for.

Anyways I am going to remake this. I started a big Skyblivion Project that I may hold off on on going any further with until I see how folks are going to respond to it. It is called Skyblivion Actor Warehouse Project and it is a mod for modders. A visual aid if you will but I may be wasting my time with it but this mod I am going to redo. It shouldn't take long and it will be better than it was before. Thanks again for finding that info for me and for all the help. :D

EDIT: The Nordic Claymore is giving me lots of trouble in this redo and I've found that in the original mod it bounces around when you toss it to the ground. I am about to toss it out of the mod because I don't think this issue with this blade can be fixed. Why? The handle. It is too long. It's a good blade don't get me wrong but the model's handle needs to be shortened up and I don't know how to do that kind of work at all. I've spent way to much time trying different collision numbers to get it right and no results so I must know when to say when and that is now. That blade is being removed from the list and I am going to keep an eye on all the other Claymores as they seem to be the ones that are giving me the most trouble. I haven't had any bouncing when dropped with any other type of Blade just Claymores.

EDIT: He He Hah even the original Nordic Claymore bounces around when you toss it to the ground. It that handle. Too long. I can't fix that so I am leaving this weapon out and moving on and to be honest my character's hands barely clip the crossbar. So the original looks pretty good in my hands.

Brainslasher - This looks good. Ok I pulled up the Original Nif in NifSkope and checked the Collision's position against the one in this download and they are both the same.

You used Blender to edit it. First what version of Blender did you use and second what did you edit about the collisions. Finally how did you edit them in Blender.

Nif files are a very old 3D model file and from what I understand Video Game Companies are using newer technology now days. 3DS Max 2012 is the final version of Max that will work with Nifs and the newest versions of Blender won't do it at all as far as I know.

To make 3DS Max 2012 compatible with Nifs you have to download another program. A Nif Importer/Exporter from the Skyrim Nexus. Well at least that is the easiest way to find the program but with the new Blender I couldn't find anything to allow it to work with Nifs.

Anyways I am asking these questions because I want to correct the bouncing Claymores and your Nif works.

Hey guys and thanks for all the help on this mod. I've decided to leave it as it is. I know my limits and I don't fully understand the concept of collision and where it is supposed to go on a Nif model. I don't even know how to create a collision. So I am stopping work on the mod and let it stand as it is. I and folks will just have deal with bouncing Claymores. When the new version of Morroblivion comes out I will remove the Ebony Shortsword from the mod and then make a post. I am moving on to my new project which is called Skyblivion Actor Warehouses Project. Basically with that I am creating a test Warehouse of each Race in Skyblivion with the characters from Oblivion. This set of mods is meant as a help resource for Skyblivion modders who are working on character faces, armor, clothing and weapons. Having all the characters in a Test Cell will make it easier on a modder to find a particular character they are working on to actually see it in game and see their changes. Even if it only helps one modder the effort will be well worth it and besides that I am having fun doing it. I can't actually play Skyblivion because a full version is not available and I am not going to hunt the internet for a hijacked copy either. I did however find the Skyblivion.esm file right here on this site and that is what I am using to create my project. Anyways hopefully some folks will find these projects useful in their work. That's all for now. Thanks again for all the help. :D

Yeah that is right and I don't know how to do it. I can place the model but I know nothing about the collision, what it does or even how to create and original collision. Every mod I've made that involved this kind of work I just took another object collision and used it a got good results that is why I am wondering about the collision for these items. When I pull the items up in NifSkope the collision is a rectangular box. I've never seen one like this before. With Skyrim they are little nodes and with Oblivion they are rounded and shaped just like the model. Anyways I am moving on this project is as complete as it is going to get. Folk will just have to deal with bouncing Claymores. That is the only weapon affected and besides all that most people don't drop stuff unless they become over encumbered.