Not sure if this is actually a bug as my Morrowind knowledge is a bit hazy, but after being reasured by Eydis Fire-Eye that killing the four agents would not get me kicked from the Thieves Guild I proceeded to head over to Caldera to finish the quest. Well when I met with Alveleg and chose the "Telvanni agents" topic, his disposition dropped to zero and when I exited conversation he attacked like I'm assuming should happen. However, after killing him a message popped up saying I had been expelled from the Thieves Guild. Just thought I'd bring this up in case it really was a bug.
This is because of the new
This is because of the new faction expulsion system. I'm not even sure if there's a way to circumvent this in Oblivion's engine except to remove the affected NPCs from the factions.
Yeah, I did some reading up
Yeah, I did some reading up on the different features and what-not of the faction systems and figured that was the case. So would removing them from the faction possibly cause new bugs making it not a simple fix? I mean, the 1000 gold to make amends wasn't that huge of a deal, and definitely is the best option if the fix would be a lot of unnecessary work. I honestly have no idea about the finer points involved, but am just a little curious.
I don't really see it causing
I don't really see it causing any bugs in this particular case. Sure, they'd lose their faction specific dialogue, but except for the guy in front of the cave none of them will talk to you anyway and straight out attack. And his quest dialogue isn't faction specific.
That's how I felt about it,
That's how I felt about it, but I wasn't too sure. Anywho- thank you for taking the time to answer to my questions!
Any chance that those NPCs
Any chance that those NPCs can be removed from the faction in a future release? Or removing Eydis' assurances that this is not a Thieves Guild job from the earlier dialog? If I know it's a Thieves Guild job and I'm in both guilds at least I have to make a decision about which way to go up front. As it is, asking questions then being attacked and then thrown out of a guild while defending yourself is disconcerting to say the least.
I have removed the Thives
I have removed the Thives Guild Faction from those 4 NPC's. It should work now.
| Attachment | Size |
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| telvanni_agents_fix.esp | 3.08 KB |
can be better to having
can be better to having these npcs removed from the thieves guild faction trought scripts after the quest start?
i cannot do this ATM but maybe when I have time
There's no need - you shouldn
There's no need - you shouldn't be expelled if NPC attacks you first. This is a bug which will be fixed in the next version of the master.
Thanks very much for your
Thanks very much for your prompt responses! You folks rock! I will try that fix out tonight.
It happened to me too. UESP
It happened to me too. UESP doesnt mention that you will be kicked, and I didnt find anything in google, so probably a bug