Dialogue Emotion Assignment (NO SKILL/YOU CAN HELP!)

taerkalith

Mcloganator, can you be more specific? I forgot to mention if the response is missing in "line1" but there are responses in "line2, line3, etc" just ignore the line. I often delete the line1 as a way of deleting the entire entry as it won't be processed. I'll make a note of it on the doc. If this is the issue you're referring to then problem solved, if not, please explain.

I found out what the problem was and fixed it.  The text on those lines was set for "overflow" instead of "wrap."  I went through and applied text wrapping to the whole document, so now there shouldn't be any places where the text is running all over the place and into other columns.

Lines 26,206-26,322 appear to have translations in the emotion's column.  How should I proceed?

Okay, thanks!

I was looking over the sheet, and in a couple of places I've noticed typos. Am I allowed to fix those typos, or should I tell someone of them?

Ok, so I began filling in some emotions, and I came down to row 32,129. Only to discover that there was text that appeared to be in the wrong location, this text was within the column designated for the emotion, and the column to its right had text in some other form of language that I was unfamiliar with. Not really sure what to do about that...

 

Taerkalith has this to say on the matter:

"These lines are written in dunmeri (for ashlanders). The translation is found in the emotion box. So replace the english translation with the emotion type.  Just use it as a reference.  This document we're using here isn't what ends up in game for subtitles so don't worry about it."  

First time helper here :). Would love to help with this stuff. read almost all the stuff in the topic and did some browsing through the docs file.

Found some things on line 29733 and 29736 that have the emotion "tongue-tied" and "still tongue-tied". 

Also on line 30326 till 30350. Is the text (what looks like the translation) on the right place?

Something went wrong, sorry for the double post.

jdh009

First time helper here :). Would love to help with this stuff. read almost all the stuff in the topic and did some browsing through the docs file.

Found some things on line 29733 and 29736 that have the emotion "tongue-tied" and "still tongue-tied". 

Also on line 30326 till 30350. Is the text (what looks like the translation) on the right place?

For lines 29733 and 29736:

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Someone, I have no idea who, has been putting loads of very inventive custom emotions all over the place.  While I understand they put in a lot of hard work trying to insert really descriptive emotions in the document, entries such as "wistfully glances over shoulder" etc. simply do not work for what we are specifically doing here.  There are eight unambiguous emotion types given as choices for using in the emotion column (Neutral, Happy, Anger, Disgust, Fear, Sad, Surprise, Puzzled).  I know sometimes it seems like NONE of these are good choices, but we have to make do with what we've been given.  If you do run across more of these custom emotions, I'm afraid you'll have to delete them and then put in an appropriate value.

Apparently these are actor instructions, but they should still be deleted and replaced nonetheless.

For lines 30326 through 30350:

These are the Dunmeri lines with the English translations in the emotions column.  Simply click the cells with the English translations and delete their current values.  Enter in the appropriate emotion and you're done!  The only reason the translation is there is so you know what emotion to assign to the dialog.

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Hello!

I have been working on it for a few hours, and plan to do more. I have noticed that some of the dialogs contain repeated phrases, which would look/sound rather odd. Something like: ""In Morrowind, if you have disturbing dreams, the Temple says you are crazy. And they want to lock you up."  " and after that "And if you have disturbing dreams, and think they MEAN something, then the Temple thinks you're a prophet or witch. And they want to lock you up." 

If I find small mistakes like this, can I correct them, or should I leave them be?

Thanks taerkalith, I made comments on the spreadsheet.

Also, just wondering, but what'll happen if not all of the values which should be filled with emotions are not filled? Due to the large number of lines that need to be filled it wouldn't surprise me if a few slipped through the cracks.

So another contributor re-sorted the document ('round 2:00pm EST, I think), and I'm not confident enough in Drive to change it back, and he doesn't know how either. He meant well, but everything's out of order. He says he only changed Column F, where a line that should be at the top is in line 4944. Also a lot of lines (at least by number) are missing before ~6000. Dunno where they ended up. Please to help.

It's been fixed.

Thanks! Fun stuff now, I filled in all the remaining holes/incomplete rows up to 6800, which was only a few hundred missing lines, but it looks smoother. I did this so that everyone who wants to help has to scroll or drag the scroll bar more.

Sorry about that, I thought it only affects my way of view on it, should have known better. 

No worries!

Logan, Leonard, and I have had a discussion in chat and we would like to make a request. We would like to have a version of Skywind with only the disgusted and puzzled emotions, at full intensity, back and forth. Please take this into consideration.

I was filling in some of the emotions on the spreadsheets, and I happened to notice that from around the 18,000 line to around 23,000 there were a lot of gaps for the lines said by characters. Not sure if it's meant to be like that, but it doesn't look right. Just pointing things out. 

When the issues first arose we quickly rolled back to a revision that was, I want to say, about half an hour older than the one that contained the problems.  I scanned through much of the doc and everything looked pretty good after that, but I guess it is better to be safe than sorry!

As for being signed in, I am all for it.  It allows for volunteers to collaborate and ask/answer questions quickly. 

I agree too. It's a good idea.

taerkalith

It's primarily the context which is the most important. Unfortunately there's no easy way to show this relationship without throwing a bunch of jargon filled quest names that won't help the inexperienced, however I can add what the player says to trigger the topic if there is such a trigger, which will help a bit. In terms of who it is, that is also difficult due to the nature of the primarily document's setup and how the game defines who can say which lines but hopefully the player's question will help.

 

Knowing a quest name would be huge.  Any form of information we could use to do research on the dialogue.  I'm a fairly experienced Morrowind player, but the game is gigantic and no one person will remember everything perfectly.  

Example:  Found an apparent chain of dialogues, one included the name Rabinna.  This was enough to find the relevant quest, which then gave me a good idea what was going on.  I then searched through the entire spreadsheet and filled out all relevant lines to that quest - some of which would have been missed/"wrong" without that context.

Yeah, I've realized that since getting a little further, my apologies!  It's fun doing the detective work on this.  May have to start self-teaching one of the other in-demand skills once this outlet runs dry, this is addictive.

I'm cool with whatever changes. I'm still into all this, just been busy with school junk. With any luck I'll see you folks on the doc this weekend!

Iv'e been filling in some spaces that were blank with expressions, tell me if someone notice that i'm doing it wrong.

Is the document messed up again? Things like N on the first lines and a lot Neutraleutraleutral around 9114.

Is the document messed up again? Things like N on the first lines and a lot Neutraleutraleutral around 9114.

Is the document messed up again? Things like N on the first lines and a lot Neutraleutraleutral around 9114.

Sorry for the tripple post :P

 

seems like a lot of Ns have been replaced with "Neutral"

I started helping out and did a bunch between 26335 and 27615 and plan to keep working when i get some free time =)

new here, but updated the spreadsheet to have data validation for that column, won't reject other input, but will have the options available for each one. 

I've done another bunch of lines in various places.

 

The data validation thing is nice but isn't it supposed to be Disgust instead of Disgusted?

Juxtaterrestrial

I've done another bunch of lines in various places.

 

The data validation thing is nice but isn't it supposed to be Disgust instead of Disgusted?

 

I was also wondering about that? Isn't it supposed to say Disgust? 

Just some questions before I start working:

• How many to go?
• Should we check if the one others made are correct?
• Are there lines missing or are these all of them?

Thx Entze

This seems like a job to me. I would gladly help.