I don't know if maybe it's the specific order that I did it in, but I killed Yngling first and then went and killed Orvas, and when I talk to Crassius Curio, he says that it's a shame they had to die, but I still cannot be named Hortator.
Additionally, when I look at my map, I still see the 2 arrows remaining on both St. Olms and on Dren Manor.
This is not true! You CAN kill orvas dren and get named hortator I'm playing throughMorrowind now and I've just done it.
After killing Dren the two councillors he 'controls' will give you the vote no problem.
I bribed Yngling for his vote.
Did OP get the vote from the guy in the haunted manor?
I agree. You should actually be able to kill him. Either you kill him or you extort him to siding with you.
The real issue is how even When you kill yngling or dren, looking on the map you can still see the arrow pointing to them saying you need to convince them.
Since if we were allowed to kill yngling and it be okay, then it should have removed him for me needing to convince him. Even though he has no reason to be convinced, due to death.
They are all alive and he says when I click on Hllalu Hortator,
"You certainly won my vote. Just use your charms on the other Hllalu councilors. I'm sure you can get them to give you anything your precious little heart desires."
When I click on Yngling he says, "It's a shame you had to kill him, but I doubt anyone will hold it aginst you."
When I click on Orvas Dren he says, "So Orvas Dren is dead. I hope you will not make his mistakes."
i'm having the same problem. currently have version 37. i killed yngling and dren, have the support of bero and crassius, but when i talk to the other two, omani and ules, there is no topic for Hlaalu Hortator. i even tried a couple fixes from elsewhere on the forum, and still nothing. no problems, so far, with the ashlanders nerevarine quests.
This is a long shot, but try clicking every topic you can with Crassuis. It's possible that you just arn't clicking the right topic, and its grayed out. That stuck me up for a while once. I completed a mission and couldn't figure out why I couldn't move on, and it was because I wasn't clicking the right topic..... :/
Maybe also try talking to the other living counciliers and checking to make sure there are no topics you missed...
i think it's fixed in v038, i must have been using an old save.
Seems like this is fixed, but feel free to re-activate this issue if anyone is still having this problem.
not exactly this, but about the same theme, killing Orvas Dren
killed him asap as usual, and now Crassius Curio simply don't give a quest to become Hortator
found one let's play, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCmWB-eeKEA&feature=relmfu
this vid actually shows the problem
i'm playing v0.54, full install+clear chrarcter.
well, maybe it will help someone. after becoming Redoran Hortator, Sarethi gives u a quest to meet Vivec, which is being SETSTAGE'd to 30 allows u to meet Vivec, bypassing ashlanders and others, and MQ's going on.
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Extra Info:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Hlaalu_Hortator
Yngling Half-Troll
Yngling Half-Troll is in Vivec, St. Olms Canton Plaza, Yngling Manor. He'll ask for 1000 gold if you're a member, or 2000 otherwise. An alternate route is to actually kill Yngling, which is quite alright with the other council members if you talk to them about it (such as Dram Bero). A good opportunity to kill him will provide itself during the Yngling's Ledger quest - refusing to give him the ledger will provoke an attack.
Taking Care of Orvas Dren
In order to convince Velanda and Nevena, you must take care of Orvas Dren first, which may mean a number of things. You can just kill him but he is well armed and has a few good bodyguards. You can blackmail him if you obtain some papers locked in his basement (his bodyguard has the key: another one lies on a shelf near Dren himself, if you have a good enough combination of Chameleon, Invisibility and Sneaking skill to steal it.) Or, if you can raise his disposition high enough, you can talk to him about protecting Morrowind, resulting in Dren giving you his vote for Hortator. If you're in House Hlaalu and you've done the quest to take over the Camonna Tong, Dren should just give it up and say he'll use his influence on his two puppet councilors. Of course, if you completed that quest by killing him and breaking the link between Hlaalu and the Camonnas, rather than taking them over, there won't be a problem...
Orvas lives on the Dren Plantation, a large sized manor just north of Vivec. If your disposition is low when you try talking to him, he may attack you. If you're lucky you will be able to attack and kill him without alerting the other guards in the house.