Save corruption occurs in Bal Molagmer questline

Submitted by Alpheus411 on

After I reach a certain point into the Bal Molagmer quests, my saves made after said point are all corrupt.  It occurs to any save I make after activating the Brallion's Ring quest.

Based on this thread:

https://tesrenewal.com/forums/oblivion/oblivion-general-chat/8505

I though it might be because I had the Thieves Guild Kill Hard Heart quest active, but after loading some old saves I found the corruption problem still happened.  Anyone else have a similar issue or have any ideas about any way to fix it?

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What other mods are you using? Post you load order.

Does this happen after some specific point in quest progression?

Are you making quicksaves or regular saves through menu?

Can you upload the save files - one that crashes and one that does not?

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Active mod list, as sorted by BOSS except maybe a few at the end.  This is the Wyre Bash active mod list sorted by load order:

00  Oblivion.esm
01  Morrowind_ob.esm
02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 5.0]
03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 5.0]
04  Tamrielic Ingredients.esm
05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.35Beta]
06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.8b1]
07  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm
08  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
09  HorseCombatMaster.esm
0A  RemoveTrainerBounds.esp
0B  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.5.1]
++  UOPS Additional Changes.esp
0C  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
0D  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0E  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.5]
++  USIPS Additional Changes.esp
0F  Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp  [Version 5.0]
10  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp  [Version 5.0]
11  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]
12  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]
13  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp  [Version 5.0]
++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
14  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
15  DLCHorseArmor.esp
16  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]
17  DLCOrrery.esp
18  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
19  DLCVileLair.esp
1A  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10]
1B  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
1C  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
1D  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
1E  DLCThievesDen.esp
1F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.12]
20  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.12]
++  FCOM_TamrielicIngredients.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
21  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
22  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
23  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
24  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]
25  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
26  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.35Beta]
27  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb8b1]
28  FCOM_OscurosOverhaul.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
29  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8]
2A  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
2B  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b7]
2C  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b7]
2D  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
2E  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Wisp and VASE Addon.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
2F  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creatures Expansion.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - RadiantAITweaks.esp
30  Mart's Monster Mod - Mummies.esp
31  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
32  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
33  FCOM_NewItemsTemplate.esp  [Version 0.9.4]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
34  Morrowind_ob.esp
35  Morrowind_ob - MorroblivionTreeReplacer.esp
36  Morrowind_ob - Morroblivion Maps.esp
37  Morrowind_ob - Conversation.esp
38  Morrowind_ob - UCWUS.esp  [Version 1.1]
39  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.7]
3A  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
3B  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]
3C  DLCFrostcrag.esp
3D  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]
3E  Knights.esp
3F  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.5]
40  Mighty Umbra.esp
41  Mighty Umbra - Vanilla OB.esp
42  The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp
++  FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
++  FCOM_Ruin.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
43  FCOM_DulanCult.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
44  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp
++  FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
45  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
46  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
47  xulTheHeath.esp
48  xulEntiusGorge.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
49  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
4A  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
4B  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.3]
4C  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.5]
4D  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.5]
4E  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
4F  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.4]
50  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]
51  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
52  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.4]
53  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]
54  xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
55  xulPantherRiver.esp
56  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
57  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1.1]
58  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.8]
59  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.1]
5A  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
5B  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
5C  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
5D  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
5E  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.1.3]
5F  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
60  xulJerallGlacier.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
61  xulTheEasternPeaks.esp  [Version 1.1.4]
62  All+5AttributeModifiers.esp
63  DRSplatter.esp
64  Ivellon.esp  [Version 1.5]
65  Capsized Ship.esp
66  DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp
67  VisiblyUnlimited.esp
68  MorroblivionWater.esp
69  Morroblivion - Buyable Houses.esp
6A  FryingPan.esp
6B  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
6C  Morrowind_ob - Nerevarine Armor.esp
6D  Morrowind_ob - Armored Skeletons.esp
6E  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp  [Version 3.0]
6F  Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp
70  Streamline 2.1.esp
71  Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
72  No psychic guards v1.2.esp
73  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
74  Morrowind_ob - Chargen and Transport Mod.esp  [Version 11]
75  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

I'm also using OBMM to load DarkUI'd DarN OMOD version & Deadly Reflex 6.0.  Using the 4 gig RAM extender & the stutter remover also.  I've only used the console to toggle clipping & god mode, never to advance quests or anything else.

I made separate saves as attached - I changed the savegame file extenstions to .txt since it wouldn't take .ess attachments.  Save 179 is the corrupted save taken just after completing the Brallion's Ring quest (by talking w/Jim about it) & being given the History Books quest.  Save 178 is the last working/loadable save made just after receiving the Brallion's ring quest from Jim but before completing it.  When I try to load 179 I don't get the corrupted save message, but it always gives a CTD after loading bar for a few.  I assume that's close to the same thing, maybe not.

Best mod ever BTW.  Let me know if any more info might be helpful.  There's a small (7k) OBME file also associated with each save.

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Which obse plugin you have(All of them)?

1)Streamline is not recommend anymore expecially with Oblivion Stutter Remover. If you want to continue to use it you should disable the save features(It has the orrible habit to save during combats thingh that can cause savgame corruption.)

2)DrSplatter.esp is a possible cause of corruption(BOSS say). Deactivate

3)The presence of DRSplatter make me think that you have OBGE. Outdated switch to Oblivion Reloaded by alenet.

4)I see you use OBME. Try to load the game without OBME and OBGE.(OBME has still some bug that can cause instabilities under certain conditions. Unluckly the 1.1 version was never completed and released(sourcecode exist)).
 

5)Which are the  information of the Windows Event viewer?

6)What are the OSR settings?

7)Can you install the OBSE plugin Message Logger(http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/45870/?) and post it's log?

 

Edit: I downloaded and tried to load your file. But they ctds(both of them) at load. Or my mods list is so different to prevent even loading  the good one or maybe the good one is just a more subtle corruption, at which my installation maybe is more sensible.

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I deactivated/removed Streamline, OBGE & DrSplatter.  And the problem no longer occurs.  I played out the Bal Molagmer questline, no CTD or corruption problems with any of the saves I made along the way.  Must have been one of the above causing issues.  I wasn't aware of Oblivion Reloaded, I'll have to see if I can get it setup now.  Thanks!

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Greetings

I've encountered a similar problem recently. To be more precise, when I exit  st. Delyn's canal South-one after giving Ilmeni Dren the ring (Brallion's Ring quest), every save I make becomes corrupted. Oddly enough, when I use Barilzar's Mazed band, I can save in High Fane of anywhere in Mournhold and those saves are loadable. But when I travel somwhere in Vvanderfel after that the result is the same.

My loading order:
1) oblivion_esm
2) Morrowind_ob.esm
3)Morrowind_ob - UCWUS.esp
4)Morroblivion - Clothing Galore.esp
5) Morrowind_ob - Lost Magic OBME.esp
6) Purge Cell Buffers - Cell Change.esp
7) Purge Cell Buffers - Loading. esp
8)Morrowind_ob - MorroblivionTreeReplacer.esp
9) Morrowind_ob.esp
10)DLCShiveringIsles.esp
11)OblivionMsg.esp
12)Morrowind_ob - MorrowindLoadingScreens.esp
13)morrob_crescent.esp
14)Knights.esp
15) Morrowind_ob - Morroblivion Maps.esp
16) Morrowind_ob - Chargen and Transport mod.esp
17) Morrowind_ob - Conversation.esp
18) morrob_bmcariusgone.esp

OBSE plugins I use are
1) Oblivion_Stutter_Remover
2) OBSE_Kyoma_ Menu_Que
3) OBME
4) Elys_USV

I tried disablving OBME but it haven't solved the problem.

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