I have a request from the community.

If anyone has the meshes and textures for the oblivion versions of the great house shields (redoran, telvanni, hlaalu) then I would be very grateful if they could send them to me as I can't seem to find them anywhere.

Here's a picture of the morrowind versions just in case people don't know which shields I'm talking about

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I looked and I couldn't seem to find them in the download. I found the regular bonemold shield and the bonemold tower shield, but I couldn't find the house shields anywhere.

Yes, I will definitely be converting the Armun-An helm. That will be the last of the bonemold to do and then it's on to finishing the ordinator armor and tweaking the daedric armor some. After that, it's just voicework and bugtesting and then a release!

I'm currently sick at home, so this is why I am getting so much work done on this mod! But I have finished with the bonemold armor, (other than the armun-an helm, but that will take all of 15 minutes to convert). Today, I began finishing the ordinator armor. I have added sleeves and armored-pants. These still need textured, obviously and the wrists on the arms don't match up with the hands. Here's a screenshot of the armor. If you need more detail on the picture, right click and view image.

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I have run into another slight dilemna. I can't seem to get ahold of Cryo, the creator of the Indoril armor for Oblivion, which is the armor I'm converting. Before I can release this armor, I need his permission to use it in my mod. He is no longer an active member of Tesnexus or Skyrimnexus, and I can't find him online anywhere either. But I do know that Cryo gave full use of his assets to the mythofanst who gave full permission to the Morroblivion team. If I can't contact Cryo for permissions, I will still be releasing the mod with the indoril armor.

Here's a screenshot for the day of a closeup of the bonemold armor on Gaden. Enjoy! For more detail, right-click and view the image!

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Here's an update for the day.

I have nearly completed the bonemold armor conversion. This includes all helms, except for the armun-an helm, which I will do right after this post. The female version is also complete. And they all have working ground models now :). It's definitely a learning process, but I think I've developed a pretty easy-to-do method.

Robertneville777 has contacted Anruin on my behalf asking to use their converted version of the indoril armor, as I was less than pleased with mine. I'm still waiting to hear back from Anruin and receive those assets, but I have confidence that they have a higher quality conversion than my own. Before converting any further armor sets (netch, chitin, dreugh) I will polish the daedric lord armor as I have learned quite a bit about the process since I first converted that armor. Most likely, I will just do a new conversion of that armor from scratch.

The weight morphs are still challenging as there is yet to be a reliable method which produces good results. For the most part I am only morphing the portions of the armor which match up directly with the skin, as in the arms or other visible parts.

Anyways, here's a screenshot of some of my work so far. Enjoy, and thanks for the support!

For a larger view of the image in full-detail, right click and view image.

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http://www.mediafire.com/?fwnhn9356m8ilgz

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Please report and errors to me on this forum when you come across them!

The male and female version of the bonemold armor are done and ready for testing. There are a few graphical issues which I know of that I will fix in the future once the entire mod is complete. Here they are for testers, so they know not to report them:

-The Male cuirass has two odd black spots which only appear on the groin area when zoomed out far enough. From close up, there is nothing there. But further back becomes a different story. Not too noticable but still bothersome.

-The female cuirass has no morphs as of right now

-The hands portion of the female bracers has an odd texture appearance. I have some idea what is causing this, and I will most likely have to make separate versions of the bracers for the vanilla hands and female body mods which change the hands.

-Some of the ground models will clip with the ground itself. For example, the boots when flipped over will look as if they are in the floor. This is due to my own limited knowledge of the new havok stuff. But I will try to fix this!

-The male and female cuirasses have gaps which can be seen when viewed from the side in the arm holes. By this I mean from the side, one can look through and see that there is a space between the armor and the arms where there is nothing.  Not really noticable on the female, or on the heavy male body, but can be seen more easily on the light male body model.

That's really all I can think of, so without further waiting, here's a test file for the bonemold armor. Included is an .esp which adds them to the game. A chest with all of the new bonemold items in it can be found in the white town center, near all of the little market stalls. Hard to miss, next to the big stone circle in the middle and it's a coffin so should stick out some.

http://www.mediafire.com/?fwnhn9356m8ilgz

Please report and errors to me on this forum when you come across them!

Yes, I'm really debating whether that's due to the actual textures or not having a specular map or both. At this point, I will tone down the texture some, but I kind of like the bright look of the armor. I'll see what I can come up with, as skryim's shaders and various texture maps are still a mystery of sorts.

Due to the inavailablity of indoril armor in Morrowind, I have made the only available copy of the indoril armor the one that Gaden is wearing. If the player somehow manages to equip any of the indoril armor while Gaden is still alive, Gaden will attack the player and the quest will be failed.

If enought people complain, I will most likely have Gaden give the player a set of the indoril armor at the end of the quest and then remove the possibility of Gaden attacking the player for wearing it.

Anyways, if any other testers have comments and criticisms of the bonemold armor, please share them with me!

Here's some more great news. Today I was able to fix most of the problems with the indoril armor which Anruin sent me. The armor was much more properly skinned than my owned version, but it was not adjusted to fit the skyrim bodies. The helmet was also not really to my liking, but still great so it will be included as an alternative version. Anyways, with his wonderful assets I was able to more or less finish the indoril armor today. I'm comfortable with having the male and female armor being the same, but I will most likely do a female version too just for proper measure. All that remains for the indoril armor is a retexture of the shield to match, further adjustment of the arms to line up perfectly with the hands (right now they clip just a little), and hopefully figure out what is causing the weird lighting. Here's a screenshot showcasing the new indoril armor :)

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In response to your criticisms Nautilus I say thank you! I'm glad that people are giving feedback on the problems as well as praises. And thank you too everyone else testing the armor and giving feedback, it honestly helps a lot. Another modder on Nexus suggested that I darken the cloth textures on the armor to make it appear more separate from the body. I might lighten it a tad bit, but the darker color has grown on me.

The gaps in the armor are caused by the mesh itself being split into elements along those edges. I have very little ability with actually modeling, so this will probably not be fixed by myself. Hopefully, I can convince Ghogiel to take a look at fixing it for me. If not, I will have to find someone else or leave it as it.

Here's an update for the day, I have mostly finished the ground models for the indoril armor. All that remains is fixing one texture on the indoril helmet and adding an alpha property to the mane. The mane could involve having to use the Andoran verison of the mane for unknown reasons which are causing the mane I am using, on both the ground model and the armor,  to have an odd lighting problem.

Anyways, just as with the bonemold armor, I will be uploading a test file for the ordinator armor as soon as it's done. Depending on whether or not I decide to make a proper female version, this could be either tomorrow or a few days from now.

I'm not confirming it's addition to this mod, but a high indoril version of the armor is also in the works. It's too cool not to think about adding it. But I really have no tie in for it in the mod so I'm not sure yet. Basically, it's a conversion of this mod http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=15111 by Zenith92, which has the most accurate look and least ridiculous appearance imho.

Well if you want to I can send you some lines for the two characters and some references for what I'm looking for and you can send me what you can? I haven't heard from Cadbury in almost 3 weeks now so I may even have to look for a new Dregas, much to my dismay cause I loved his voice for the part.

Oh and I'm pleased to announce that the image I showed on this page of the indoril armor compilation is now one of the top 27 images on skyrimnexus :).

The more voice work I can get done for this mod, the closer I am to a release so at this point I'd be ecstatic to have some more voice actors.

http://www.mediafire.com/?f84ereevtw1uwnp

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Warning: As an important edit, I have no idea why, but the indoril gauntlets are causing crashes only in this .esp. They don't cause any such crashes in my other .esp for the vivec mod itself. So just don't equip the indoril gauntlets and it should be all good. I can't figure out how to fix it right now, but I know it works so just ignore it.

Above is the download link for the indoril armor test. Same as the bonemold test file, it adds the armor to a coffin in the town center of whiterun. The armor has working ground models and a much more limited issue with lighting now, thanks to Anruin for his shared assets. I am aware of a few graphical issues which I will attempt to fix in the future, so here they are just so testers know not to list them.

-The pauldron will sometimes move a little too much along with the arms. This is due to the rigging on the pauldrons. The good news it does not look weird the majority of the time.

-The greaves on the legs will sometimes distort weirdly when the legs are bent. Again, not very noticable but still something I can fix.

-The side plates around the waist will appear oddly in certain lights for completely unknown reasons. I suspect this is due to the random uknown values in the game and that the mesh itself is double sided, but I will have to experiment some more to fix this one.

-There are currently no morphs for the model.

-The female and male versions are exactly the same. I plan to fix this as it is mostly simple, but it's not really priority as Gaden Indoril is male.

-The house indoril shield is purple. It should be closer to goldish brown. The textures of this shield are from the Her Hand's armor by Zenith on tesnexus and they are a modified version of the golden saint shield texture with the her hand's symbol from morrowind slapped on it. I will have to do a new texture for this shield as it is too pixellated for my liking.

-The ground model for the helmet has odd collision. Occassionally, the indoril helmet will flip over on the ground and the helm itself will be in the ground, practically invisible. As I am very new to havok, so this is a struggle to fix.

-The ground model for the boots is simply a little weird. The boots themselves are very far away from each other. In my opinion, I hate the idea of the boots and gauntlets and other ground models being magically stuck together and moving as one giant mesh. If I can figure out how, I will separate them into individual havoked boots as a part of the same mesh. This would work similarly to how activating the decapitated head on a corpse still opens the inventory for the entire corpse; activating one boot would pick up them both.

-The textures on the boots appear to be a little too bright and need some tweaking, and probably a new normal map.

Anyways, please test the armor! A lot of work went into it and I would hate to see it go to waste by still having bugs.

Comments and Criticisms are always welcome. Thank you!

Nautilus, I have PMed you regarding the dialogue. Sorry to hear about your headset, by the way.

Here's an update for the day.

For those that have tested the armor, they might have noticed some of the annoying graphical issues with the armor. But today I managed to fix some of them in my free time. This includes the visible gap between the arms and the back of the cuirass available when viewing the character from the side. I have also managed to get a working morph done of the armor. It's not the most dramatic morph, but it works and it looks alright.

There are still lighting issues with the skirt, but I think that I might have realized where the problems lies. It definitely has to due with the double_sided shader tag. Some of the indoril ground models need work still; The greaves on the cuirass have an incorrect texture path, the helmet is missing part of the mesh, and I still have the issue with the boots.

Later this week, I will start on a female version and then it's on to fixing the daedric lord armor and adding ground models to it.

Robertneville I love the iphone background :). If you're looking to play a version of the daedric lord armor in game for yourself, a modder by the name of natterforme has released his own conversion of the armor on skyrimnexus. In my opinion there is still no perfect method of converting oblivion armor to skyrim, so his daedric lord armor looks a little odd in spots, but it's still a quality conversion with ground models and all. Most likely I will be using his assets in place of my own daedric lord armor because mine didn't properly line up with the skyrim body, but I  hope to encourage him to improve upon it.

The indoril armor is mostly complete. The female version has no morphs, but to be honest the body really doesn't change all that much so I don't think it's necessary. The male version has complete morphs with the only clipping appearing around the neck when the male body is at it's maximum weight.

It turns out that a lot of my lighting problems were due to incorrectly facing normals during export in 3ds max. The solution was fairly easy in nifskope and the results look so much better. I am happy to report there are no more weird lighting problems with the armor. Both the male and female armor versions are stable and work well in game. As with most armors, there is still minor clipping but nothing grating. The ground models are all working fine.

I still need to retexture the indoril shield and the daedric crescent. I'm hoping that I can enhance the detail of the indoril armor with some more in depth normal maps, but I really have no issues with their appearance right now, just ideas for improvements.

And here are your graphical issues adressed one by one robertneville:

-The first person daedric shield is due to me not assigning a first person model for the indoril shield. It's just in the plug in I uploaded, but in the mod itself this is not the case.

-The glossiness is due to the environmental map on the armor. That's the way that Anruin had the bsashader property when he sent it to me and I chose not to change it; it currently uses the same one that the chaurus chitin uses in skyrim . I like to think of the cloth as a silk or satin with a sheen, but if it's really glaring to others than it's fairly easy to change the environment map.

-As for the pauldrons, I have very little idea what is causing this. I can try facing the normals and see what happens, but it could also be due to the rigging of the pauldrons drawing the upper portion of the mesh through the lower portion, which would cause an odd lighting problem. Hopefully I can fix this.

-The gauntlets are only unwearable in the plug in I uploaded here. I have no idea why, but they work fine in my plug in so I'm not too concerned at the moment.

-Thanks! The only serious distortion I am aware of is when sheathing a weapon; it moves the pauldrons through the shoulders. This would be a pain in the ass to fix as I would have to remove rigging from the shoulders and weight them to the spine to prevent it.

As for the bonemold:

-I thought that I had lowered the pauldrons on the male version to be at a proper angle. But I had not done so with the female version. It's just a matter of rotating them a little.

-Yes, I had thought that the boots were too big, but I thought it might just be me. I will see what I can do as far as making them smaller.

-The seams in the bonemold are due to the one mesh which makes up the cuirass being split into many different elements. These elements are skinned fairly well, but they will seperate when moved as they are not welded together.  I lack the necessary skills to do anything about this though. So I welcome anyone to try to fix this.

-Thanks again!

Voice Overs:

Cadbury_Flake has been sending me more of his wonderful voice work. I'm hoping to receive the rest fairly soon. They all require some editing for more professional quality, but they are great regardless.

For the roles of Vivec and Dregas, Nautilus has volunteered and what he had sent me is spectacular. I'm very happy to see everything coming together.

As for a release, I'm hoping sometime in June. The list of things to do is getting smaller everyday. Thank you all for the support and sorry it's been so long since an update :)/.

Thank you all so much for the kind words of encouragement. Unfortunately, I haven't heard from Cadbury_Flake in a long while. Normally there were long spans of time without any new voicework, but it has been well over a month. Aside from the voice work, the mod is done. However, I do not feel right publishing the mod without Cadbury's finished voicework. I really hope to get the rest of the voicework from him soon. Otherwise, I will have no other choice than to reaudition for the part and select a new voice actor. It would be a real shame though.

I'm sorry to have been gone so long. I've been enjoying my summer on vacation and modding has really taken a back seat to life. But I still look forward to a release of sorts in the near future. At the very least, the indoril and bonemold armors are completely converted for skyrim and can be released as a resource to the community, particularly to the morroblivion community. There are many, many new screenshots sitting in my steam folder so hopefully some new stuff to come. I'd like to get some really high quality shots done before release by some of the Nexus' more talented screenshot artists for promotional reasons. I'd also like to do some sort of promotional teaser. But we'll see what sort of time I have on my hands.

I had many more things planned for this mod, but, as most modders will attest, ambitions are very lofty in the beginning. As of right now, I'm happy with what I have created and what I have learned in the process. I now have some actual scripting and quest-making experience under my belt. It was hard, frustrating and at sometimes not the fun it should have been, but it was worth it. Hopefully I can share the finished product with you all soon enough if I hear from cadbury. There will be more to come for sure though.

At this point it has been far too long since I've heard from Cadbury_Flake. I'm sorry to say it, but I have no other choice to audition for new voice actors for this mod. If anyone is still interested in the role, I can send them some lines for an audition.