Seyda Neen Bug Fix and Improvement Thread

Ok on the guards. I have the latest dev version 8.2.

I have a question. It is simple to get the npc clothes and to change it when needed. Is it okay to give them a Skyrim equivalent to Morrowind for the time being? I did it for myself and they look so much better now.

Exterior. The interiors have been done I think. The exterior is a total mess and needs to be optimized.

digitalparanoid

ArchieVisionI have a question. It is simple to get the npc clothes and to change it when needed. Is it okay to give them a Skyrim equivalent to Morrowind for the time being? I did it for myself and they look so much better now.

I know it's not very visible, but people are working on this :)

The plan for now is to give NPC outfits using a TES5edit, meaning a one-time execution instead of going into every NPC. I'd rather you don't give clothes or keep that as a very separated esp.

Next release guards will be armored :)

Cool. That seems like a simpler way to do it.

Ok. So clothes is off the chopping block with guards. I will concentrate ok getting that dang buff party broken up. Lol ;) The bridge and boat creaking have been reduced significantly. I will make a separate esp just for that and post it here. I know some have complained about the volume of it. Me included.

Ravanna

considering its an imperial town (isnt it?) the people would most likely be wearing skyrim/imperial clothing, especially those found in solitude, and simple garments for the poorer types.

it is a province of Morrowind. And all of Morrowind is a part of the empire. The civilians should where Morrowind native a tire and the Imperial soldiers should be dressed according to their rank and skill set.

Yes, I found the issue and have corrected it across Morrowind. And it also was a lag causer. I feel that the sound might need to be optimized for Skyrim or done away with all together. But it is good now. 

 

I have started now on the NPC's in Seyda. Fargoth is now a homeowner and can be found in his house or wandering thorough the marshes. 

Eldafire is next. 

 

 

Have you tested the mod I did? Instead of reconverting the sound. I just reduced its ambience in game so it is very soft. I thought about adding so variation to it so it is not the same. Different pitches would be a little better. To be honest, that sound really need to be totally redone for Skywind. And a lot of the other ambient sounds need to be upgraded to to run correctly in Skywind. . 

 

Updated OP. 

Good catch. I will see which npc still has that. I have been duplicating that package and renaming it for each npc. I must have missed one. And I have used unique names with a "0" in front of them. :P

 

 

digitalparanoid

WIP obviously but here's a few things:

1/ have the NPC move in town, go to the tavern, wander around a bit. Send them go outside. I suppose they can also visit friends. They're not nerds like us :)

2/ have a few of them in the town center regularly. They can meet and talk, go fishing together... (what else to do in seyda neen)

3/ I followed Fargoth when he wanders outside during the day and the path is illogical. He goes into the water to reach "downtown" http://i.imgur.com/AHKTDFR.png

He's not some damn argonian :P http://i.imgur.com/6WUa6JN.png

it's surely due to navmeshing. I had the same issue with a hla oad plugin from Cors IIRC.

4/ give some patrol routes to the guards

5/ Just before I get caught by the lore police... to get this more lively, maybe there could be a fish market stall and assign this job to one of the NPC with little lore...

 

Thanks,

 

1: Still a WIP. That is next. 

2: Same as #1. :P

3: Yes, that is suppose to be him going to the swamps for the side quest in Morrowind. I will work on it when we get the other stuff done. 

4: I was told that this is going to be accomplished through TES5edit and I was not suppose to change them. 

5: That is out of my expertise for the time being. Maybe later. 

 

Once I get back in the grove, I will do some more tweaking and post a demo here. Do you remember which NPC had the DefaultSandboxHomeowner? I cannot find one with it. 

I did change it, but didn't use it. Once I learned that I needed a unique one for each NPC. So, I think the warning is just from that. I hope anyway. 

LASentry

OMG! Clothes! Hahaha I guess you didn't install the nude DLC?

Clothes? Where???? lol

 

That was the plan!!

I will run it on my pc and see. The intown nav meshes have optimized, and some of the outer ones as well. I am still cleaning them up, that is why I made a separate esp for the nav meshing. Hmm, I didn't know that quest was done already. The changes I made might have messed it up b deleting some of the already added AI properties. If so, I will redo to ESP and leave those alone. 

This is a steep learning curve coming in after things have already been done, but I am loving the challenge. 

Drakonman

Why am i getting the feeling that seyda neen is gonna be the most polished and best looking area of the mod? :T

 

It is the 1st town you see, and start or the story. :P  

OP updated. 

zilav

Remove Skyrim clothing since it will prevent outfit script in TES5Edit from working.

I will de tonight. I created some duplicate clothing packages so we can at least get them clothed until the morrowind clothing is created and in game. The nav mesh for Seyda Neen is coming along nicely. But there seems to be some issues with the surrounding meshes that are now giving me hard lag when I venture out of town. I am investigating. Will keep you posted and post an updated esp tonight. The NPC's mostly do what they are suppose to do. They still stay at the bench on start of a new character but overnight the venture to their locations of choice. The town is starting to look like it did in morrowind. They also will attack you now for crimes. Or run depending on their behavior settings. Also, I have been doing some testing with the guards. They now are armed, and patrol the intended routes. New factions for them as well as they agro you it you commit a crime. This is in a separate esp so not to interfere with tes5edit.

This is a separate esp so all these changes can be removed by just not using the esp. The patrol routes are very easy and simple to implement. I will just add them to the NPCAI esp so they are there when you merge them.  

 

What is the latest dev version we have? I am using 8.2 

OP Updated. 

Has anyone tested it yet to see if they are doing as they should? I know they work fine on my PC, but sometimes you get little changes when someone else uses them. 

OP Updated!

Thanks for the feedback. The Nav Mash esp can be merged if you want.

 

Since there were a lot of issues with the NPC esp, I have decided to redo them all in smaller esp's. Here is the 1st. 

It is all of the idle and clutter changes to Seyda that I made in the 1st one. 

Changes:

1: Added 4 lean to idles, 1 small bench and 1 large bench for npc interaction.

2: added more clutter around Seyda to make it look more like a fishing village. Not much, but a vast improvement. 

3: Added door candles to all of the houses in the main part of the village to give the night a better ambiance. 

This is a clean esp with no Skyrim references. All meshes and changes were either duplicated from existing Skywind items or used from the Morrowind statics. 

This can be merged. 

Edit: Updated the esp

 

 

 

The second esp is ready. It is the guards pathing and a simple patrol package. All clean and ready to merge. 

Added:

1: 7 patrol points for the guards to use. 

2: a simple patrol package for them to use.

Corrected some meshes that were not placed properly. 

 

 

DIYDeath

Is it just me or is there no Guard pathing in Seyda Neen?

 

There is now. The sn guard idles and patrol esp above corrects that and they patrol now.

OP Updated. Big update. 

 

Another OP Update.