Morroblivion

That is awesome man good work! :)

I like siltstrider pylon. We can use also some pylons placed just on roof of living houses.

> Gates of Vivec city could be a bit bigger
= not so critical with this small population of it.
= I think now more critical to make it more naturalistic (more shacks, beggars, population, beaches, markets, pilgrims, children, public services and so on).
= Even in magical world Vivec should'nt look like some waterpark in Disneyland.

What if one of the cantons, probably St. Olms., has a plume of smoke coming out the top, essentially making it look like a mock red mountain. The lore of this can be that during holidays and special events the temple puts on shows making shapes from the smoke.

It would also be interesting to see one of the other cantons have plants along the walkways, a sort of hanging garden of Vivic. 

Good idea but only for the roof. It could be too different compare to original MW concepts or game itself.

Those last few with the large amount of vegetation / gardens are cool, but I'm getting an Aztec/Jungle kind of vibe that maybe it should ease back from, kinda like what lukkar is saying with only vegetation on the roofs.

Thinking back, I noticed the areas near the water and sewer portholes in MW could use some more detail... maybe some marine vegetation or roots coming up near and below the sewers. Might be overkill, but could look neat.

Also nice job in general Roman :)

Cool

I'll leave this here for reference, this was an early development screenshot of Vivec before some engine changes, with open-air cantons more closely resembling Michael Kirkbride's concept (I think that's the Saint Delyn canton):

Also, that Imperial Templar is an interesting (although unrelated) reference, noting the moth on the chest and the symbols (Ancestor silk text?) on the helmet.

Really nice work on everything so far, although I do think that the curved bridges with the hanging banners of the original are too iconic to be replaced, and should be restored in the new Vivec:

And another prerelease screenshot:

The large green columns running up the front of the foreign quarter, those were also quite iconic in the original, and I think they should definitely be put on the sides of the pyramid cantons again -arena, redoran, telvanni

This including the arches they created under them, when they went over a pathway. I also think we should keep the old amount of bridges, and in the same locations, from the original layout, as the new lack of such bridges makes it too difficult to navigate the exteriors. Vivec's final esthetic in the original game- Pyramids, the green columns, the curves bridges and arches, and the way they curve into the water- was one of the most iconic features of morrowind, and to have that look come to compromise with the new features would be great. We musn't pave over the original, but build upon it, for it is not our place to simply mold it as we see fit, but pay respect, preserve, and cherish the original game, as we add to what it could be, and bring it to further potential, not an entirely different one. I also don't think the Hlaalu canton should be a different shape, as it makes it seem too personalized- to hlaalu, it would be entirely indoril-, and it stomps over the memory of the tall towering three-story buildings of the original. Now this isn't to say keep it-and the rest of the city purely identical, no, don't simplify my words to such extremes, I believe that it should hold more resemblance however to the old, and pay respects to the memory, and fact, that is held as Morrowind.

Loving the scarab carved in the stone, and the red tapestry. A great motif for the Great House cantons would definitely be to have a bit of art pertaining to the houses in the Vivec architecture. In this case, the scarab for the Redoran. I don't know if a statue of a Redoran hero would be appropriate in this case, or if the city should be kept as pious/dedicated to the temple as possible. Either way this is neat; would love to get a better view of the rest of the canton though, especially if we're going by the open-ceiling idea ;)

Uhm, guys, the layout of the city didn't change at all - the main concept is a direct repaint of a screenshot, exactly for the purpose of keeping it in the same layout, just walls and docks added (and Ebonheart moved away). Vivec is not a straight up cross in vanilla Morrowind, it only appears so on the map because of how cells are arranged.

Dragomir wrote:

Uhm, guys, the layout of the city didn't change at all - the main concept is a direct repaint of a screenshot, exactly for the purpose of keeping it in the same layout, just walls and docks added (and Ebonheart moved away). Vivec is not a straight up cross in vanilla Morrowind, it only appears so on the map because of how cells are arranged.

Not sure I understand? Between the layout pics I've seen and revisiting Vivec city in game today, the only thing in the way of calling the city an absolute cross is the slightly skewed placement of the foreign quarter. As for the concept image, it could just be the perspective, but it looks like the Telvanni and Arena cantons are pulled forward compared to the Hlaalu and Redoran ones respectively. 

All the cantons need bridges, as the cantons were not built by the respective houses that inhabit them currently, the structures predate that. House character would come in the form of things like planters with mushrooms growing on them, and banners and such. The structures themselves need consistency.

Ravanna wrote:

ouch, imagine falling down those stairs

Skywind Guar's don't respect rules of gravity, Rav! ;)

Looks awesome! Roman molodec!

Sorry but, I think this concept could be better Roman

1. My posters could be used only where imperials are in power (imperials cities, forts etc.) But proskooma could fit there.

2.Those two graffiti which u used are "special" which means that can be only in appointed places like Balmora and second one somewhere in Vivec (invisible dude quest). But this is detail and there are many different.

3. If this is main city gate. It would be nice to see more stalls. You know many people in one place, good place for present yourself.

4. It would be good to see some cultural influence on the gate (nord, imperial, telvanni, balmora, redoran) Maybe some mural or sth heavy depicted. It could be quite colorful too. Some story about Vivec greatness, city or races which populate city etc. Just remember that foreign quarter should be more colorful, diverse and less dunmer than other districts.

Anyway, good work.

Alright, good TR cranes look okay but do show their age.