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Where:
Hills East of Suran, wherever the hell Umbra is.
When:
Anytime.
NPCs:
-Umbra
-Random Adventurer
Dialogs:
The player heres fighting in the distance, and should they follow the sound of one-on-one battle, they will find themselves at end of a short mountain path, an orc clad in armor stands above a defeated opponent. He leans down/crouches to 'examine' the kill.
Umbra: Today was neither mine, nor yours. Rest in peace in whichever afterlife you claim. (maybe make it specific if their are multiple templates for the random adventurer. "Go to Sovngarde in peace." if Nord. "The Keeper of the Bloody Oath will find use for you, I know." if a fellow Orc. etc.)
If player moves within an understandable visible range, Umbra will call them to him.
Umbra: You seem... Different. You're not cut from the same cloth as the average mercenary traveling the roads. Come, I would speak to you.
The player then has the choice, naturally, to speak to Umbra or walk away. No further special dialog.
Is it possible to create conditions related to the main quest? I think it would be very cool to have the people of Vvardenfell slowly lose their minds and prophesy the return of Dagoth Ur in every city as you go through the quests.
Where: Sadrith Mora, outside Tel Naga
When: Daytime
NPCs: Drodos Galen & Endar Drenim
Dialogs:
Drodos: Have you heard about Master Neloth's apprentice?
Endar: Which one?
Drodos: Wha - the one he supposedly used as a test subject, turned into a mudcrab and ate!
Endar: You're new here aren't you?
Drodos: Doesn't this concern you?
Endar: No, no... If you knew Master Neloth you would know he actually did much, much worse.
Drodos: By the Three; why was he even punished?
Endar: Master Neloth is particular about his tea.
Tajnarasha wrote:
yes
If that's the case, this Morrowind mod has some cool ideas:
http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/41337/?
Where:
Seyda Need
When:
After you came out of the Office
NPCs:
-Fargoth
-Hrisskar Flat-Foot
Dialogs:
Fargoth: Give me my ring! I know! You did it!
Hrisskar Flat-Foot: Ring? *laughs* Get away from me... Ask this outlander.
Where:
Balmora
When:
when people are getting crazy
NPCs:
-Rararyn Radarys or Landras Belaal
-Guard
Dialogs:
RR: *shouts* Sleeper(asleep) has awakened!
Guard: Shut up, scum! * kicks * How do I get these crazy ...
Tajnarasha wrote:
That is great :)
Tajnarasha wrote:
Absolutely brilliant! One thing, though: "By the Three" is generally what would be said. Everyone knows which Three is being referred to, and it falls much more naturally off the tongue.
Hi everyone, first time poster, longer time lurker. As I do not 'yet' posess any modelling skills or a pc rig, that could handle that either, my humble capabilities are rather limited. And as I'm no artist either, it's bad, considering I really wanna help this project.
The first idea I got:
Where: Seyda Neen
When: Daytime
NPCs:
- Guard
- Vodunius Nuccius
Dialogs:
Guard: I presume you haven't seen the tax collector Processus Vitellius, have you?
Nuccius: No, I haven't, at least that much luck I still have. Why should I?
Guard: Well, I heard you're little low on coin and...
Nuccius: What?! I do not know, where the tax collector might be and I couldn't care less if he's lying dead somewhere in this bloody swamp! Leave me be.
Guard: (to himself) Perhaps that's a clue. He was known to love shortcuts, seems like he found a dead end.
Updated my Neloth scene with the appropriate ''By the three'' expression :)
Where: Vivec City
When: Anytime
NPCs: Ordinators
Dialogs: Various passages from the lessons of Vivec spoken by idle Ordinators as prayer.
''The ending of the words is Almsivi''
''I am the Face-Snaked Queen of the Three in One. In you is an image and a seven-syllable spell, Ayem Ae Sehti Ae Vehk, which you will repeat to it until mystery comes.''
''I am the Clockwork King of the Three in One. In you is an egg of my brother-sister, who possesses invisible knowledge of words and swords, which you shall nurture until the Hortator comes.''
''God hath three keys; of birth, of machines, and of the words between.''
''There is an eon within itself that when unraveled becomes the first sentence of the world.''
''The Sun shall be eaten by lions, which cannot be found yet in Veloth.''
''There is a world that is sleeping and you must guard against it. For by the sword I mean the dual nature, For by the word I mean animal life, For by the sword I mean preceded by a sigh, For by the word I mean preceded by a wolf.''
Tajnarasha wrote:
As an expansion of this one, how about this:
Where: Any Tribunal Temple
When: Anytime
NPCs: Any local Dunmer
Dialogs: Kneeling at a Shrine:
Notes: The "Grace of ______" comes from Saryoni's Sermons, and the prayers I wrote are based on The Lives of Saints, which also lists the patronage of each respective saint, which should help in determining who prays to whom. Feel free to point out issues you have and/or write your own prayers! :)
I must admit that I don't like to treat writing this way. It's like doing the landscaping by everybody from every department, just throwing in some rocks and trees in a region, when they feel like it. Or drawing concept art, with everybody drawing one part of the creature each.
While I think there should be an "ideas thread" for inspiration, I suggest that in the end, the writing is divided up into claims. One claim for each city or region. That way there is a consistent "vision" for each region or town, which in turn would make the gaming experience and the world more immersive.
I also suggest that we discuss a general vision for the conversations. I kinda see Morrowind, as the wild west of Tamriel. The silence, the "you-don't-bother-us-we-don't-bother-you" attitude and off course the gossip that exists in every small town. People don't like strangers and they don't like speaking a lot.
This is off course only relevant if we decide that the NPCs should have conversations. :)
EDIT: To me it would also be extremely interesting to get a discussion going on the "personality" of each city, town and hold. I want to be able to "feel" the mood of the places. :)
Where:
Addamasartus, outside of Seyda Neen
When:
When opening the first door past the first Slaver
NPCs:
The Slaves: Baadargo, Benalz, and Okaw
Dialogs:
Baadargo: This one will never touch it again. Bad things happen. Bad things every. Single. Time.
Okaw: Get ahold of yourself, kitty. These guys will kill you sooner than let you go if you show yourself to be useless. This isn't my first time in a cage, trust me...
Baadargo: Do not call this one a 'kitty', lizard, or he will claw yo-
Banalz: Quiet! Both of you! I hear someone!
How about a short mention of Tarhiel?
Where: Seyda Neen
When: Daytime
NPCs: Random
Dialogs:
NPC-1: I saw something in the sky... I'm not sure, but I think it was a bosmer.
NPC-2: Go get some sleep before you start seeing flying mudcrabs.
Probably second dialog you'll hear somewhere near Telvanni Towers, I figured that out from Tarhiel's diary:
"They laughed at me when I suggested this. We'll see who laughs after I leap to the top of their towers and scream out my success."
Where: Sadrith Mora
When: Daytime
NPCs: Random Telvanni Mages
Dialogs:
Mage-1: And then that smart aleck said: I'll leap on your towers, you'll see!
Mage-2: Where's he anyway?
Mage-1: Probably getting high somewhere. <laughs>
This is a good point, Hovercat.
It's immediately apparent that there is a different mood depending on the city that you're in, being that Morrowind is divided in culture by its different houses as well as its unique climate. As you can see above you have the religious, worshiping feel of Vivec and the Indoril contrasting the crazy antics of Telvanni wizards on Vvardenfell’s eastern coast. Likewise, the business-oriented and Imperial-inspired lifestyle of the Hlaalu would impact the way they speak, their interests, their fears and how they view Vvardenfell as a whole.
Ultimately it will be up to the people in charge to filter through the poor suggestions from the good to coordinate dialog to be recorded and implemented in-game. I firmly believe that Twisted Logic added some brilliant dialog for my previous suggestion regarding the Ordinators and that we could benefit similarly from people working together rather than have individuals write scenes for an entire region.
Having each region and town tell a "story" requires oversight. I agree that there is some great writing in this thread already, and I don't think that it should stop :)
My suggestion would be to have everyone contribute with scenes but have one person in charge of each region or claim. An editor if you will. Making sure that the tone is consistent and the quality is good - inside guidelines defined by the community.
I suggest make a scene of gladiators' battle every time, that player enter arena district in Vivec, it is not a dialog, but empty arena don't make the world immersive
bormoglot wrote:
This arena was used for duels in Morrowind, not really just bloodsport.
Though I could definitely see it being rented out to different groups. Throughout a weekly schedule, perhaps? Redoran warrior training one day, children acting out scenes from the 36 lessons in full regalia with their parents looking on, middle-aged Dunmer yoga classes, Kagouti-baiting with a pack of nix-hounds... maybe just a day every now and then for gladiatoral battles of slaves and bet-taking. This would make those nights gladiators fight seem more special.
Where:
Anywhere
When:
After drinking skooma for the first time
NPCs:
Sheogorath
Dialogs:
Sheogorath: Nobody will believe you.
*sheogorath puts a sweetroll in your inventory*
Where:
Radiant spawn areas (if those are going to be implemented)
When:
Randomly when coming close to a radiant event spawn area
NPCs:
Tarhiel's Apprentice
Dialogs:
Tarhiel's Apprentice: Aghhhhhh! *Tarhiel's Apprentice falls out of the sky then dies and has more Scrolls of Icarian Flight in the inventory just in case the PC uses them all*
Where:
Top of Council Club in Balmora
When:
Evenings
NPCs:
Dranas Dradas & Tedryn Brenur
Dialogs:
Dranas: I can't believe the Great House is allowing that S'wit Ra'virr to hold his own shop in the city.
Tedryn: I know: Him, and the other slave-beasts should be in chains.
Dranas: The Empire is ruining what was good in this place. Damn N'wahs and their tolerance.
Tedryn: I'll drink to that.
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Question to everyone concerned; Wouldn't it be a good idea to remove the ''Little advice & Latest Rumor'' dialog options from the conversation menus and make them into scenes for NPCs? This would simultaneously make the conversation box with NPCs far less cluttered and give us a way to add a lot of immersion to Skywind.
Yeah, I think that's definitely a good idea. :)
Sevenf0ld wrote:
I like it, though I think you should remove the word "bosmer" as it is too specific. Try elf or merely someone
In a world where knowing levitation is mandatory for maneuvering through Sadrith Mora, should this even be outlandish, though?
At any rate, if anyone writes good scenes for any characters I'm voicing, I'll gladly record lines for them. Maybe we could have someone working on this, editing 'rumors' to use in various dialoguey bits between characters, and eventually include a spread-sheet of unique dialog for the characters so the voice actors can knock them out when they're working on the main lines?
Did you guys see the Dragonborn Tarhiel easter egg ;) ? Could use that exact same technique.
Where Vivec, Crassius Curio's house
When After helping Marcel Maraud, the actor who you sign up for the play the lusty argonian maid
NPC Marcel Maraud
(muttering to self as reading lusty argonian series)Here polish my spear... (exclaiming) This is genius!
Where: Ald'ruhn, Skar, Redoran Headquarters
When: When we first visit Redoran Headquarters
NPCs: Bolvyn Venim, two of his personal guards, Athyn Sarethi, Neminda.
As you enter the Redoran hedquarters you see Bolvyn Venim geared in his Traditional Ebony Armour, as he is having an argument with Athyn Sarethi.
Dialogs:
Bolvyn - "OUT OF MY WAY, S'WIT!"
Athyn - "You've changed, Bolvyn... I remember when you and Varvur were riding guars together, as small brats. You should know better."
Bolvyn - "This is the last time I warn you, councilor. One more word, and he pays with his head."
The dialogue is done. Bolvyn Venim and two of his personal guards march out back to his manor. Bolvyn has a furious face and shouts "GET OUT OF MY WAY" if we stand too close. Athyn stays there for a while and looks at Bolvyn going away. When the archmaster is out, another dialogue starts:
Neminda - "Don't worry sera. It's all going to right itself out."
Athyn - "Thank you, child. But I don't think Bolvyn is going to step aside. He's grown stubborn and arrogant, he'll never admit to his wrong. Now excuse me, I have duties ahead of me."
Athyn Sarethi walks back to his manor and the scene ends. If we try to start a dialogue with Athyn he'd say "It's none of your concerns."
This scene has a few purposes. First - it's going to give us a hint of that spicy conflict between Bolvyn and Athyn, getting us interested in the internal politics of Redoran while we go off looking for some pesky crabs in the wilds. It allows us to see the leader and one of the councilors we'll be working for the most. It will also give some more character to Neminda, who was painfully bland in Morrowind and was just an obvious quest giver that didn't even seem to belong to House Redoran.
And of course - it will showcase the awesome Traditional Ebony Armour and tease us to get it some day :P Other than that - it will give those NPC's a bit more life. In vanilla Morrowind they never even leave their houses, freaking no-lives.
Never use mister where a good serjo, sera, or muth'sera could go. Also, 'out of my way, n'wah!' Or fetcher, or swit, or 'you miserable Sload!'
This is probably going to be an unpopular opinion but scenes like this really killed the immersion for me in Skyrim. It's fine during the first playthrough, but when you're greeted with the same scenes every time you enter a city on a new character, it feels really artificial and repetitive, like the NPCs are just standing around waiting for you to show up.
Seeing that this is a currently a non-priority, it will most likely be a optional addon...Correct me if i'm wrong.
Where: Ministry of Truth prison, two adjacent cells
When: Anytime before the player has acquired Moon and Star
NPCs: An imperial named Scire Fallacia, and a Dunmer dissident priest named Lassus Virum.
Dialogue:
Scire Fallacia: I am Nerevar reborn, the Incarnate!
Lassus Virum: A fool is all you are - you're not even a Dunmer.
Scire Fallacia: Neither was Nerevar!
Lassus Virum: That's because there ~were~ no Dunmer...
Scire Fallacia: And he was an outlander, like me! And I've always felt a kinship with you Dark Elves. I mean Dunmer. We are brothers!
Lassus Virum: [exasperated] And has the curse of flesh flown before you?
Scire Fallacia: [thoughtful] Curse of flesh... well I did see a levitating sload once!
Lassus Virum: [mutters to himself]
Uncle Sweetshare wrote:
Pushing this to the extreme, playing the same quests in different playthrough is repetitive? Or cutscenes in games?
Obviously, this shouldn't be "truman show"-like, just triggered when you come in the city, there should be an organic flow to it.
Shushine wrote:
No real plan for the moment, I just gather scene ideas. If we have the time to implement it, it turns out well and we don't have a barrage of no-sayers, I guess we would include it in the master.
digitalparanoid wrote:
Out of curiosity, scenes can contain conditional parts, can't they? What about random elements, just little things to stop them being exactly the same every time?
Yes, you can configure the scenes as you like.
Smitehammer wrote:
Not sure if Neminda would use Dunmeri words though, she's an n'wah after all ;) Maybe she got assimilated enough though. I just had this long, long thought, when I remembered a scene from Django with black, female slave was calling guests "mister". For some, totally not racist reason I thought that would work well with Neminda too :P Sera would definetly work though.
About the other thing, I think n'wah and fetcher are not the best insults for Athyn. I don't think it would make sense to call him an outlander or a thief, but a softwit would do indeed.
I doubt she'd use the insults, but Venim would likely insist on being called "serjo" rather than "mister".
Twisted Logic wrote:
Huh? She was talking to Athyn, not Bolvyn... I edited the dialogue and added Dunmeri words, anyway.
Sorry. Didn't remember exactly what the dialog said and did a quick skim. That's what I get for not paying attention!
Where:
Seyda Neen, Arrille's Tradehouse
When:
8 AM- 4 PM(Randomizes)
NPCs:
Arrille
Hrisskar Flat-Foot
Dialogs:
Arrile:So how's the legion been, Hrisskar?
Hrriskar: Oh alright Arrile. Quite slow. not too much slicing and killing.
Arrile: Sounds intresting. However too violent for me. I'm just a trader. Nothing more, Nothing less.
Hrriskar: If you ever get intrested let me know. I'll get us a Ship and we'll head to Cyrodill.
Arrile: Cyrodill eh? If you do go by send me some Imports i would quite like some Cyrodillic Brandy. It attracts the Imperials
Hrriskar: I'll get some for you if i do travel to Cyrodill.
Random aggressive encounter: May be somebody can make this idea as part of week NPC schedule. Else it should be start with ~5% chance when player already looting last room in ancestral tomb - because chest ghosts are for the children.
WHER: Any Ancestral Tomb.
WHEN: Evening or Morning one in specific day of the week or script-starting.
NPCS: Game NPCS with surname appropriate to Ancestral Tomb name. Maybe one-two guards.
DIAL: Gravedigger? Die, you disgusting n'wah! :)
Two scenes!
Where: Seyda Neen in the little space where you find Fargoth's ring.
When: After you get get all your shit done with Sellus Gravius and are on your way to get your duties
NPCs: All the npcs on the prison ship
Dialogs: No dialog, just a ship bell ringing, and the guards marching into the ship, and getting ready to set sail.
Where: Seyda Neen
When: After you get your duties and exit the Census office
NPCs: none
Dialogs: None, the prison ship sails away for good. Perhaps into the sunset.
While I've always wondered why that ship never left, I do have a need for it now. Morroblivion uses the beds there for all the guards around town. Therefore, if we have the ship leave, we need another building with enough beds for the imperials to use. Right now I don't think there are enough but we could always rotate schedules so some guards sleep during the day.
It's Seyda Neen Barracks time ;)
Where: Suran House of Earthly Delights
When: When an NPC or the player approaches the bartender
NPCs: Helviane Desele
Dialogs:
At random
''Welcome to the House of Earthly Delights.''
''Please have a seat and enjoy the entertainment.''
''Please have a look at our selection of drinks - have you had a chance to try the new Balmora Blue?''
''Our girls come from all corners of Tamriel to suit your needs.''
''Feel free to have a look at -all- our wares.''
''The night never ends in the House of Earthly Delights, my friend.''
Perhaps a slight expansion of the basement in the census and excise building.
Where: Random Dunmer town's square, but not too far from Vivec (Balmora, Suran, Vivec, Ald'Ruhn)
When: When PC comes there for the first time.
NPCs: Indoril Inquisitor, Indoril Warrior, two Indoril Watchmen, new NPC - Selyn Toril.
We witness four Indoril members, of three different orders, surrounding a Dunmer dressed in rags, with moon and star painted on his face. Townfolk stop by to watch from a distance whenever they happen to walk past the scene.
Dialogs:
Inquisitor: "You've been accused of spreading heresy among the faithful people of this town. What do you have for your defence?"
Selyn: "That is not heresy. It is the truth, but you can not see it! You are blinded!"
Inquisitor: "Truth, is it?"
Selyn: "He has awaken! Under the Red Mountain, he's opened his eyes, I heard him in my dreams. You can not stop me, for only I can stop HIM! I AM NEREVAR REBORN! I AM..."
Inquisitor: "That's enough! You got it all wrong, poor madman. You will be transported to the Ministry of Truth, so that you can tell lies from true again."
Selyn takes out a knife, and Indoril all take out their weapons.
Indoril Warrior: "Go on. Struggle. Make my day."
Selyn: "I AM THE NERE..."
Selyn's head is smashed by the mace of Indoril Warrior.
Inquisitor: "May his soul find peace in death. Tell priests at the Temple they have a corpse to burn."
Watchman: "What are you looking at? Go back to your chores! This petty heretic will bother you no more."
Watchman2: "Move it, scum!"
Townfolk goes back to their everyday routine, while Indoril march out of the city. Body disappears when we go in and out of an interior, or when we wait.
@Dragomir
Very brutal, and it shows the zero tolerance religious zeal of house Indoril. I say this is a great idea!
Well in that case... Uh... My comedy scene with the imperial who thinks he's the Nerevarine - have the dissident priest strangle-shank him with a shank strangler or something at the end?
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