(WIP) Telvanni Dust Adepts Helm

Telvanni Dust Adepts Helm

original model

Current model

Lore

The Dust Adepts are Alteration-focused magical agents of the Great House Telvanni, trained and employed for their special skill at manipulating ash, dust, sand, and other particulate matter blown up and spread by the eruptions of Red Mountain.

Their wholesale departure from Vvardenfell, the only region of Morrowind that produces enough dust to actually make them dangerous to their enemies, was the result of a prolonged period of negotiations between the Empire, which greatly feared the notion of ash-wielding raiders and saboteurs ambushing the imminent wave of outlander colonists, the Great House Hlaalu, which shrewdly recognized the agricultural risks posed by Dust Adepts to their budding plantations in the Ascadian Isles, and the Great House Telvanni, the result of which was a treaty that enshrined in law the enslavement of Imperial colonists convicted of crimes in legal Telvanni holdings in exchange for the outlaw of all dust magic on Vvardenfell, as well as the exile of certain Telvanni Ash Lords of Molag Amur.

The one Redoran diplomat invited to the pertinent Grand Council session, the old and wizened Councilor of Maar Gan and the Northern Ashlands, was reported to laugh in hysteria at the fear and trepidation his esteemed colleagues held for "a gaggle of trifling dirt-mages."

http://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/1z4wdc/telvanni_dust_adepts/

MK concept

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I'm not making it look like a sheeps head. So don't try...

Last edited by Aurabelle on 21 Feb 2015 - 22:51.

I got rid of most the concave

I got rid of most the concave shapesfrom the side right now I mainly fixing this area.

I got rid of most the concave

I got rid of most the concave shapesfrom the side, right now I mainly fixing this area.

Hmm, would you be okay with

Hmm, would you be okay with portruding the whole mask a bit forward, and making the ears bigger and more to the back - to give them more substance?

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That way they'll look like strong, integral pieces of the whole mask.

I can move it out....Pretty

I can move it out....Pretty indifferent on this change doesn't matter to me but I'll go with it.

Bigger ears:

would maybe a simpler sort of

would maybe a simpler sort of hood work better for this than the crazy mullet?
I'm sure it will turn out great in the end regardless

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Damn sweet! The mullet does

Damn sweet! The mullet does look awkward though. Hm, maybe it would look better like in Drago's sketch, as a one piece cloth hood.

You guys do realize when i do

You guys do realize when i do something like that its just a placeholder for future work....

Liking it thus far, though

Liking it thus far, though one thing I will comment on is that I think the ears/horns/whatever-they-are should have that sort of backward tilt like in Dragomir's sketch. Longer face pipes would also be pretty cool. That's just me though.

I really like the earrings :D

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discoccult wrote:

discoccult

I'm not sure it's supposed to be an ear cover.

I like every version and

I like every version and every suggestion. I think they all look cool. I also think that Shu should just make it in whatever way pleases him, since he's doing all the heavy lifting. If it comes out looking like any of these it will be a great addition to the mod. Rock on Shushine!

I know it wasn't, I was just

@jorgen yep I know it wasn't, I was just using it and changing it for a different purpose, and also to compliment the other shapes

the two halves were just a

the two halves were just a comparison between my proposed ideas and the current state of the model

Veloth the ashlander wrote:

Veloth the ashlander
I like both halves of discocults image. How about make 2 helms!

How about you learn how to do stuff and you do two helms. [External image]

Shushine wrote:

Shushine
Veloth the ashlander
I like both halves of discocults image. How about make 2 helms!

How about you learn how to do stuff and you do two helms. [External image]
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(sry couldn't resist)

Shushine is the hero of the

Shushine is the hero of the people ! He get pro tips, suggestions and so on from everyone and more and he doesn't even freak out !

Thank you sir, btw the model looks awesome ( so did your original ).

Wow, a lot has transcribed in

Wow, a lot has transcribed in this thread while I was gone! I really like Shushine's model as of "Small update". Props and kudos him to Dragomir! (and gosh, did I actually manage to contribute something useful to the discussion back then?)

Now I'm making my return with another (hopefully my last) suggestion on this thread. I apologize in advance if this is obvious and simply not included in the WIP. So, without futher ado, here's a mantis right after molting:

It can be clearly seen on the shed "skin" that the eyes are also covered in chitin. This is why Telvanni dust adepts make their helmets out of insect headpieces - that's by far the easiest way to get dust protection for the eyes! After all, going through so much trouble to get dust filters for breath but being unable to see because of the dust is not really the Telvanni way. They would not stop there :)

So I'd add transparent (read: black, nobody would notice the difference) curved surfaces in the eye "holes", as if it's a thin layer of chitin that used to cover the insect's eyes.

There's a fleck of light on the original model in the eye socket, suggesting presence of a curved reflective surface (see my earlier screenshots), so I'm pretty sure that was the original Morrowind design as well.

BatmannaShushine is the hero of the people ! He get pro tips, suggestions and so on from everyone and more and he doesn't even freak out !

Absolutely! He's a man of iron will!

Shnatsel wrote:

Shnatsel
BatmannaShushine is the hero of the people ! He get pro tips, suggestions and so on from everyone and more and he doesn't even freak out !

Absolutely! He's a man of iron will!

As long as people say please and thank you and refrain from saying "we".

Oh, I totally forgot to

Oh, I totally forgot to mention that I dig the eye shapes. Combined with the "ear" posture they give the helm a ruthless, confident, menacing expression. Very Telvanni.

As for JorgenGorgen's concept, I'm not sure how it's supposed to be better than the current model. It's a cool helmet, but it doesn't look more true to the original model or fit the lore better or anything like that.

As for the eyeholes - Dunmer

As for the eyeholes - Dunmer are known for their goggles made of hardened, see-through resin, so we also have that option. If they're modelled in some interesting way in the eyehole they can give the mask a bit more depth, something interesting to look out for in the eye cavity. Let me explain graphically:

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I think that could make it look pretty cool.

Shnatsel wrote:

Shnatsel
Oh, I totally forgot to mention that I dig the eye shapes. Combined with the "ear" posture they give the helm a ruthless, confident, menacing expression. Very Telvanni.

As for JorgenGorgen's concept, I'm not sure how it's supposed to be better than the current model. It's a cool helmet, but it doesn't look more true to the original model or fit the lore better or anything like that.

Not my concept. I was quoting Discoccult, that concept is his. And I much prefer Dragomir's, and That1Cactus' concepts.

Personally for the eyes I

Personally for the eyes I think it would give it a more menacing look if it had black cloth covering them, rather than resin or glass goggles.

looking great there Shu!

looking great there Shu! :party:

Alright detailing has begun..

Alright detailing has begun...Heres some early work. I'll keep working on the helm and then move onto the cloth where i'll get the colors right and add some Telvanni prints, etc, etc. [External image]

hey shushine, the helm looks

hey shushine, the helm looks cool so far. can u tell me , how you make the ripped broken fringe cloth parts?

smartinius wrote:

smartinius
hey shushine, the helm looks cool so far. can u tell me , how you make the ripped broken fringe cloth parts?

Haha, well that was mainly ravs part in the helm so you should ask him.

hehe, nvm, thx, though ^^

Hell yeah! Awesome job!

Hell yeah! Awesome job!
Definitely wearing this on my Dunmer necromancer dude.

These little "teardrop" and

These little "teardrop" and triangle shaped beads can also be golden I think ;)

...or made of glass/jewels

...or made of glass/jewels/painted ceramics maybe?

Dragomir wrote:

Dragomir
These little "teardrop" and triangle shaped beads can also be golden I think ;)

Alright, wasn't really sure what they were made of.

I'm cool with what Kohl said

I'm cool with what Kohl said too, especially painted ceramics, maybe some polished stones.

Honestly I liked it better

Honestly I liked it better before the "lamb" ears. It still looks great though.

Sorry, for the lack of

Sorry, for the lack of updates but I've been at my Grandmothers house redoing the whole piping/septic system for the place and having a working toilet for my grandmother takes priority over Skywind. But cleaning up fossilized and new shit hardly gives me the inspiration to do work on the computer anyways. If you ever done septic work you know what i'm talking about. My Grandmother is not a rich or healthy woman who has legs swollen up like balloons so right now i'm pretty much her primary care taker atm and all this sorta puts a damper on my free time while making me and the house smell like crap...If you need to contact me send me a message or email. Do not send me a chat message as I will probably miss it.

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